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NVC does not know whats happening!

Just checked my case with NVC and they(call center) told me that they (NVC) have not sent my papers for CP since my pd is aug 2004 and they are processing june 2002! I asked about the newly released visa bulletin for scheduled A workers, she said that she do not know that as far as she knows, my case is being processed under E3! what the H___! Is this is what's really happening or that agent do not know anything? does someone know what's happening?

Am starting this thread to track cases that has been sent from NVC - CP - interview schedule to know the developments of the processing as a result of the ammended june visa bulletin.

Your experienceand input is very much welcome

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Things are all the same here in China consulate! I checked with them days ago but they told me that EB3 is still in retrogression. I give them the bulletin board to see.They just have no idea what a schedule A is! They don't care about it so much as we do! What should we do with it?

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Things are all the same here in China consulate! I checked with them days ago but they told me that EB3 is still in retrogression. I give them the bulletin board to see.They just have no idea what a schedule A is! They don't care about it so much as we do! What should we do with it?

The June Visa Bulletin was only amended last June 7, 2005. Maybe the DOS and NVC Bosses are still formulating the guidelines and new rules on how to process these cases. Usually when a new law/change takes place CIS and NVC directors would issue an inter-office memorandum to announce how they would process these cases. I am sure they are working on it. But in the meantime I am urging everyone to inquire...So the volume of inquiry would flood the NVC and somehow they would act...

I will contact some "friends" of mine to inquire to the NVC directors/ consulates on when they would act to process these cases again.

Please keep me informed if there are any changes that you have encountered.

DALE

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Dhel28, your not alone. I also experience the same. I called the Immigrant Visa Center awhile ago to follow-up my visa/ ask when can I receive my visa since I'm already complete with the process. The call center agent insist that Schedule A worker is different from the E3. I got confuse, is that so? As I understand it Schedule A is the same as E3 for nurses. What's going on? I don't get it. The agent told me to call again after 2-3 weeks to know the feedback of my concerns. Men, that's too long! I'm disappointed!

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Dhel28, your not alone. I also experience the same. I called the Immigrant Visa Center awhile ago to follow-up my visa/ ask when can I receive my visa since I'm already complete with the process. The call center agent insist that Schedule A worker is different from the E3. I got confuse, is that so? As I understand it Schedule A is the same as E3 for nurses. What's going on? I don't get it. The agent told me to call again after 2-3 weeks to know the feedback of my concerns. Men, that's too long! I'm disappointed!

Schedule A is a JOB CLASSIFICATION. The U.S. Department of Labor is the agency that determines the occupation schedule A. DOL have classified Schedule A designation as a shortage occupation. Workers under schedule A are nurses, pt's, workers with extra ordinary ability in performing arts. Schedule A workers are also exempted from the time consuming labor certification process.

Employment Based immigrant visa is the work petition which is under USCIS. Employment Based petition are classified according to one's education or abilities. There are five classifications of Employment Based visas. EB1(extra ordianry ability>>>like Einstein) EB2 Advance Degree (Masteral Degree Holders, Doctorate Degree Holders, Specialization Degree Holders) and the EB3. Since most of the nurses and pt's are graduates of a Bachelor meaning four year course they are classified as EB3 (Skilled/ Professional Workers). Msot of the nurses only holds a four year degree course so they were classifed as EB3.

Did you get it?

So you can be under EB2 at the same time classified as Schedule A if for example you are a physical therapist (got license and certifications approved by the us gov't.) PLUS underwent special training like PT in orthopedics. And the school that you underwent training is accredited by US and you were awarded a certificate. Your petition can be filed as EB2 because you are a PT under Schedule A holding an advance degree or speciality occupation.

You can be also EB1 at the same time under Schedule A if you are a nurse with Extra ordianry ability! Hehe but YOU have to prove that!

Did you get the difference? EB is based on educational qualification and abilities. Schedule A is based on occupation considered as a shortage occupation thus exempted from labor certificaton.

But let me warn you most of the people even in the U.S. gov't do not know this stuff that i have explained. The reason behind this CONFUSION is the NEW LAW that recaptured visas and the amended June visa bulletin. As I told you earlier most of the nurses from the Philippines only holds a FOUR YEAR DEGREE COURSE so they are simply classified as Skilled/Professional which is under EB3.

Before this law was signed, majority or almost all of the Schedule A are under EB3, eating the chunk of the EB3. Hey that sounds familiar. HEHE that is why there is a thing called RETROGRESSION. Back then nurses are delayed by THREE AGONIZING YEARS.

So the "brains" of the congress have thought of a way to separate these nurses and pt's out of the EB3 category so that their applications would be processed separately, faster and they can enter the U.S. without delays coz of retrogression. They then thought of a simple common sense solution. Since in the filing of an immgrant visa petition you need to present a CGFNS certificate in order to claim that you will be classified as Schedule A and be exempted from labor certification, and in that USCIS petition Schedule A is separated already. (Look at the USCIS Service Center Processing times) Schedule A has a separate category.

So technically all of you are still EB3 if you are a nurse or pt with a four year degree course BUT YOU ARE RECEIVING A VERY SPECIAL TREATMENT BECAUSE AT THE SAME TIME YOU ARE ALSO CLASSIFIED AS SCHEDULE A.

SCHEDULE A ARE V.I.P.'S NOW! HEHE

So my advise to all when inquiring at the NVC/ Consulates tell them that you are a NURSE under Schedule A benefiting from the 50k visas the President Bush signed! Yes it is as simple as that. Don't be confused.

Once you are exempted from labor certification it means that you are on schedule A. Ok let's simplify things>>> IF YOU ARE A NURSE OR PT you are Schedule A.

I think the DOS/NVC Bosses are still formulating lessons/memos on how they would explain to their subordinates how to process these cases. They need to know which is which! Yeah maybe guidelines will be out within two weeks. Send me a postcard when one of you sees disneyland!!! LMAO:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

DALE

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Dale...

I seriously doubt that u r an Imigrant Lawyer.. :) :balloons: Just kidding....

I was expecting you online. Well I have a small doubt.

Is there any chance that a Nurse can be NON SCEDULE A???

The reason for my question is, some states not required CGFNS visa screen. As per my knowledge CG is a sort of labour certification. So when a nurse is not CGFNS holder on what categogry she falls into????

Awaiting for kind reply from our experts..

Thanks

Nimisha

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Dale...

I seriously doubt that u r an Imigrant Lawyer.. :) :balloons: Just kidding....

I was expecting you online. Well I have a small doubt.

Is there any chance that a Nurse can be NON SCEDULE A???

The reason for my question is, some states not required CGFNS visa screen. As per my knowledge CG is a sort of labour certification. So when a nurse is not CGFNS holder on what categogry she falls into????

Awaiting for kind reply from our experts..

Thanks

Nimisha

so even if the category written in my notice of reciept and approval is skilled professional worker,I am still under schedule A bec. I am a nurse?thanks

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Clear but is it clear to the Stu___! agents answering at NVC???

Dale, I really appreciate you clarifying the issue. I do understand the difference also of schedule A vis-a-vis "normal" E3 cases, do not have a question there. What I dont understand is WHY does the agents answering the NVC hotline do not understand the difference and do not have the slighest idea what is happening around them. For heaven's sake, they are working in an agency who'se line of work is that area! Their web site already differentiated schedule A from the regular E3 but agents, who suppose to answer basic questions does not know the basic answers. I could have understand them if they answer that their is a current backlog because of the adjustment, or offer similar excuses. That will be more forgiving. But to insist that nurses are still retrogressed which in fact their own consulates announced that it is not is discombobulating and astounding. Just imagine if call centers will work that way...that customers are more informed than their agents.

Am not starting a fight here, am just dumfounded and amazed how they work. and talking about quality, they even will tell you when you call "your message maybe recorded to ensure quality of service" what service? what quality? It's becoming more frustrating because we have waited for a long time and these are the kind of answers we are getting???

Enough said, again, thank you for sharing, explaining and clarifying. I hope we can continue these and maybe SOMEONE from DOS, NVC and DOL can read our sentiments.

God bless and will wait from someone's experience in disneyland. :rotfl:

I still believe happy days are here to come

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CGFNS is not any type of labor certification. Has nothing to do with that, whatsoever. It was only created as a screening test about 25 years ago when many foreign nurses were being brought to the US but could not pass the nursing boards. Each state at the time had their own exam, and it was given over two days of all day questioning and it took about three to four months to get your results.

Since the exam was only given in that state by that particular BON, it was quite hard to know if a nurse would be able to pass or not, or even have a chance. CGFNS was set up as a screening test. It actually is no longer needed by most states. That is why NCLEX is now being given overseas, there is no reason that the nurse even needs to come to the US to take the exam.

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Dale...

I seriously doubt that u r an Imigrant Lawyer.. :) :balloons: Just kidding....

I was expecting you online. Well I have a small doubt.

Is there any chance that a Nurse can be NON SCEDULE A???

The reason for my question is, some states not required CGFNS visa screen. As per my knowledge CG is a sort of labour certification. So when a nurse is not CGFNS holder on what categogry she falls into????

Awaiting for kind reply from our experts..

Thanks

Nimisha

Dear Nimisha:

All nurses are under Schedule A that is according to the new guidelines under PERM issued by the Department of LAbor. If one nurse does not have a CGFNS he/she must present a passing score of the NCLEX exam so that her petition can be filed. So its either CGFNS or NCLEX.

DALE

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Dale...

I seriously doubt that u r an Imigrant Lawyer.. :) :balloons: Just kidding....

I was expecting you online. Well I have a small doubt.

Is there any chance that a Nurse can be NON SCEDULE A???

The reason for my question is, some states not required CGFNS visa screen. As per my knowledge CG is a sort of labour certification. So when a nurse is not CGFNS holder on what categogry she falls into????

Awaiting for kind reply from our experts..

Thanks

Nimisha

There is a big difference between the Visa Screen Certificate and the exam that is also offered by CGFNS. CGFNS exam is strictly for Boards of Nursing, when required. The Visa Screen Certificate deals only with immigration, has nothing to do with any BON.

Hope that this clears up things for you.

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Saw some E3s whose priority dates where after June 2002 whose papers where sent by NVC to US embassy, Manila. The latest was an E3, schedule A case whose priority date is October 2003 and one January 2004.

Anyone here whose scheduled for a consular interview? or at least NVC sent their files for CP?

Thanks!

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