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- Aug 20 by BostonFNPFrom a faculty perspective I would have failed you. In some ways you are lucky you weren't expelled and/or reported.
You may win an appeal if your prescribing physician is willing to stick up for you, but that's a long shot.
I have been a part-time APN faculty member for two years and I have seen a very similar case. Student was failed, brought an appeal, was reviewed and ultimately dismissed from the program. It's a sad case, but if you would plagiarize a paper and submit it while impaired, would you write a patient note impaired?
Would you access the EMR impaired? Would you go to clinic/ward impaired? Would you prescribe impaired?
- Aug 21 by iluvivtEsme, they should be excluding quotes from the students work in the plagiarism score. Most of the nursing programs and other on line schools have an acceptable score of about 20 percent. Turn it in is the program I have seen the most and odds are that this student instructor used that or a similar program. A student can also run their paper through a similar program before submitting. I put my daughters paper through Viper.
- Aug 21 by elkparkQuote from Meriwhen^^ This. I agree with some others here that the school has already cut you a break by not expelling you and giving you the opportunity to repeat the course; I don't see that you have much to gain by continuing to push for a different response. You could end up worse off than you are now.At least you weren't expelled. You could definitely try to appeal, but I don't know how far it will get you. Using your medications as the excuse only goes so far as you've seen from your review board: after a certain point, it starts sounding less like a bonafide but unfortunate accident, and more like you're making excuses and refusing to accept responsibility.
IMO it may be better to cut your losses. But you need to do what you think is best.
Best of luck whatever happens.
- Aug 21 by CDEWannaBeThere were extenuating circumstances, but you did commit plagiarism. I have type 1 diabetes and when it was out of control during some of my college years it affected my performance in class and GPA. But I didn't get a break because of that, nor should I have.
You knew you were struggling and impaired and didn't handle the situation right. If you had contacted your professor in advance and asked for the deadline to be extended, she probably would have helped you, or at least would have been aware.
The department's decision is tough, but it's not wrong. You sound like a really committed and bright student. If you decide to go forward in fighting the charge, make sure to take responsibility for the part you played in it and to do your best to see the opposing side.
- Aug 21 by OCNRN63Quote from MSN2Good question. I am escalating my rights as a student. I would take an incomplete or a withdrawal to save my GPA. The F completely destroys my GPA. I am not trying to get out of anything - but let the punishment fit the crime. If someone has a hypoglycemic episode, we understand. If we give someone narcotics in the hospital and they experience delirium, we understand. Anyone remember the days of ketamine in adults? I had a bad drug interaction that was witnessed and I would think that my past performance would have some credibility. Not here. The old adage of 'nurses eat their young' continues to flourish. BTW - both of these professors are 2 years away from retirement.
You had my sympathy until you threw the NETY card and referenced your professors' age. Your professors were following the policies set forth by the institution. I would imagine there would be repercussions for their careers if they let a potential case of plagiarism slide.
State your case without denigrating others.
- Aug 21 by PsychcnsMy friend and I had a mantra to get through graduate school "Cooperate, Graduate. " I think if you fight they will win, maybe not, but it does seem like they have all the cards... After reading your post it is so much more in my awareness when I prescribe psych meds to ask pts about pain meds and the possibility of delerium...I always do this anyway but now it is more in my awareness that it can happen. Best wishes to you
- Aug 21 by chessi89I served as a student representative on my university's academic integrity board. Let me just say that instructors take academic integrity very seriously. Although I empathize with your situation, I would call plagiarism as well since you submitted the paper. There really isn't a way to prove that you were on your medication while typing the paper, and I think that is a major concern. Also, if you wish to appeal, you may want to take a look at your school's academic conduct policy/handbook in regards to the procedure for filing academic dishonesty. Sometimes instructors do not follow the procedure as written, for example, officially filling academic dishonesty before contacting the student in my university could get a case thrown out due to procedural error.Hope this helps!
- Aug 23 by thenursemandyI wonder how good your paper could have been if you were "out of it" to the point of plagarism. If it was fairly well written otherwise, id have to conclude you weren't under the influence.