Why Do Nurses Eat Their Young?

More and more Nurses are getting involved and looking for solutions that will end the scourge that has persisted for so many years and tarnished the good work and dedication of all Nurses everywhere. Nurses Announcements Archive Article

Have you heard that phrase before? I graduated my Nursing Program way, way, back in 1955 and it was around even then. The perpetrator is usually a senior nurse with longevity but could be a new graduate bursting with new knowledge and techniques and anxious to give them a workout or it could be a Supervisor or someone with a higher or lower rank than the victim. Regardless who is creating the problem it is interesting that old cliche is still around in this the 21st Century.

I first encountered it when as an eighteen-year-old nursing student who had never been in a hospital had no idea what a hospital ward looked like. I was born at home, and my tonsils were removed on my Grandmother's kitchen table when I was five. That was way, way, way, back, in 1935. So imagine my surprise to learn the "Ward" my Mother talked about when she had my brothers and sister, was not a long hallway with beds on either side, as I had envisioned, but a long hallway with rooms on both sides and it even had a kitchen. Yes, I remember it well.

We spent the first three months of our training in the classroom learning the basics of bedside nursing-bed making, vital signs, bed baths, enemas, along with medical terminology, anatomy, and other basic preparations for our initiation to "The Ward". We never got further than the lobby of the Hospital and the Cafeteria until the end of those first three months. Finally, the day came with the notification our schedules were changed. Starting immediately, we would spend four hours in the classroom every morning and four hours on the Ward in the afternoon. After class, we reported to our assigned Ward and introduced ourselves to our R.N., Supervisor.

Miss G. was about four feet, ten inches, tall and weighed about ninety-eight pounds. She looked impressive in her starched, white uniform, white stockings, white, polished, shoes with clean, white, shoelaces, and perched on top of her head a starched, white, crinoline cap with a ruffled edge, with a black band around it. She wore her accessories with authority. Her school pin perfectly placed on her right chest, her nurses' watch with its black, leather band and her black, winged, glasses, which she wore at the end of her nose so she could look directly into your eyes when she spoke. She was a retired Army, Staff Sergeant, probably in her middle thirties, and Single. Yes, I remember her well.

It was the first day of my first four- hour shift. Everyone gathered in the kitchen while the R.N. Supervisor dished out the diets on to a tray, from a warming cart, which we took to the bedside. I was assigned to feed a very ill young man, hooked up to an I.V. and too ill to feed himself. My patient had a bowl of Pea Soup, a glass of water, a cup of hot tea, a packet of sugar, and a glass straw. This was my first patient and the first time I would feed someone. I was scared to death.

I rolled his bed up, placed a napkin on his chest, told him my name, what I was about to do and asked him if he was comfortable. He nodded his head. I placed the glass straw into the bowl of pea soup and brought it to his lips. He was too weak to draw the soup up through the straw so I told him I would get a spoon and I would be right back.

Once in the hallway, I forgot which way to the kitchen. I started back toward the Nurse's Station and ran into Miss G. "Where do you think you're going?" she said. "I'm looking for the kitchen," I said. "You mean to tell me you've been here an hour and a half and you don't know where the kitchen is?" I looked at her with total surprise. "Yes.", I replied. She gave me directions and I was on my way.

There were lots of cupboards and drawers in the kitchen and I had no idea where they hid the tableware. I started opening drawers when I heard a sound behind me. Miss G. was standing in the doorway watching me. "Can you tell me where they keep the spoons?" I asked. "Don't they teach you anything in that classroom? You were just in this kitchen. You don't remember where the spoons are. What kind of nurse do you think you will be if you can't remember from fifteen minutes ago?" That was my intro to Miss G. and it was just the beginning. I finally got back to my patient but by that time, the soup was cold. I went back to the kitchen to get some warm soup. I'll give you three guesses who was there and what happened next. The first two don't count.

That was fifty-four years ago. Do nurses still eat their young? Yes, they do and there is plenty of evidence to support its existence right here on the internet. Just go to any Nurse Blog or Forum and you will find page after page of comments from nurses, young and old, male and female, R.N.'s, L.P.N.'s, C.N.A's, all venting their frustrations about the treatment they endure from NURSES WHO EAT THEIR YOUNG. Why do they do it? They do it because they can.

Fortunately, there is hope for the future. Due to Nursing Forums like this one, more and more Nurses are getting involved and looking for solutions that will end the scourge that has persisted for so many years and tarnished the good work and dedication of Nurses everywhere. Now if only someone would start teaching "How to build a team" or "Teamwork is the answer" that would be a place to start.

I quit nursing school in March 5 2011, that date was four months before graduation. It was because of the Nazi culture of most of the nurses and instructors I witnessed and endured. Nothing ever pleased some of these instructors,senior nurses,and administrators. The behavior of some of these people was disgusting, and in some cases illegal. I PAID to be treated so poorly and learn on my own. Yes, no "free money" or financial aid. Silly pathetic me!

I did very well academically, but was told I took too much time caring for my patients. I thought nursing was about patient care and keeping your patient safe. What a joke! I felt more like I was expected to slop pigs rather than care for human beings. I was completely abandoned by any CNA on the floor and did full care on my patients. I never had a med error,a patient complaint, injury, or fall with any patient within my care.

If I asked ask any instructor a question about ANYTHING I was insulted and publicly humiliated. I assumed that was what students came to school for...to ask questions and learn. From what I have been told...all of the instructors were being paid to teach. Some of the senior nurses,instructors and administration I had to deal with were the most unethical,unprofessional,insulting, and cruel people I had ever met. It was shocking. I had only one instructor that gave me faith that not all are that way, she was a truely nurturing instructor and represented what holistic nursing is. When I quit, I was tormented and insulted more and told that if I quit, I would regret my decision and that the administration was shocked and dissapointed and would not to ask anyone from the program for a reference. They were dissapointed because they lost $3800, not a student who wanted to care for and comfort sick,frightened,confused human beings. I contacted the state board of nursing.

Specializes in Acute Care Hosp, Nursing Home, Clinics.
I quit nursing school in March 5 2011, that date was four months before graduation. It was because of the Nazi culture of most of the nurses and instructors I witnessed and endured. Nothing ever pleased some of these instructors,senior nurses,and administrators. The behavior of some of these people was disgusting, and in some cases illegal. I PAID to be treated so poorly and learn on my own. Yes, no "free money" or financial aid. Silly pathetic me!

I did very well academically, but was told I took too much time caring for my patients. I thought nursing was about patient care and keeping your patient safe. What a joke! I felt more like I was expected to slop pigs rather than care for human beings. I was completely abandoned by any CNA on the floor and did full care on my patients. I never had a med error,a patient complaint, injury, or fall with any patient within my care.

If I asked ask any instructor a question about ANYTHING I was insulted and publicly humiliated. I assumed that was what students came to school for...to ask questions and learn. From what I have been told...all of the instructors were being paid to teach. Some of the senior nurses,instructors and administration I had to deal with were the most unethical,unprofessional,insulting, and cruel people I had ever met. It was shocking. I had only one instructor that gave me faith that not all are that way, she was a truely nurturing instructor and represented what holistic nursing is. When I quit, I was tormented and insulted more and told that if I quit, I would regret my decision and that the administration was shocked and dissapointed and would not to ask anyone from the program for a reference. They were dissapointed because they lost $3800, not a student who wanted to care for and comfort sick,frightened,confused human beings. I contacted the state board of nursing.

What a horrible story. What a loss to the facility and the patients you serve. Not to mention what you invested in time and money and to be so close to graduation. Unfortunately as you can see from this post you are not alone. It has to stop. I wish you the best.

Thank you so much for your kind words. It took me a few weeks to cope with leaving school. Since I was a small child I wanted to be a nurse. I am now enrolled in a teaching college and start in the fall.

Specializes in Acute Care Hosp, Nursing Home, Clinics.
I agree wholeheartedly that teamwork needs to be taught. It can also happen as a side effect of any school activity when there are teams. And girls aren't the only ones who need to be taught and experience team work. Not all guys know how to work as part of a team if they have never been part of one. But if it is emphasized in their first jobs, girls and guys will pick it up.

A good team first needs a leader dedicated to building the team. If the designated leader won't do it and the mix of team members is good, a leader will emerge. But having a good leader who helps each member contribute to the team is essential.

My nursing school, like many schools I am aware of, taught what a team is and had us work in teams on many assignments. So there will be good teamwork among more newly graduated and future nurses. It seems to me we need to decide how to educate the nurses who have never been part of a team or never experienced effective teamwork. The nurse managers, directors, and charge nurses have to learn about and experience teamwork themselves then let their nurses know that teamwork will be a part of the unit and teach the nurses who need teaching.

I suggest having teams of nurses who are familiar with teamwork work together. Then when those teams are comfortable, a nurse be added who doesn't know how to be a team member. That way the team's effectiveness won't be disrupted and the new member will get a chance to practice his/her learning. The age of the nurses is no indication of knowing how to be a team member. Younger (

I am a second career nurse who is over 50, but I am a new graduate of a school which emphasized teamwork. So I know how to work as a team member. Just because someone is 25 doesn't mean he/she knows how to work as a good team member.

We have to work with what we have. Supervisors have to give their implicit requirement that health care workers work in teams and teach those who have never learned how. Requiring team work and education for teamwork starts with the leaders, at every management level upward to the CEO, buying into it.

If research finds that teamwork is more cost effective and better for patients, watch how quickly education about teamwork and requirement for teamwork happens.

The problem is how do we get people who are in a position to change the status quo to pay attention and recognize how serious the problem is? You are fortunate to have been in a progressive teaching facility and maybe in some way you or they can pass it on. Effective, well planned teamwork is the answer but we need effective, well trained leaders to really make it happen.

I do agree with the culture of teamwork. I worked with the same clinical group for a few different rotations. Most of my team was happy to help me, and I them. There was only one person that always seemed quite bitter and complained about everything. That did not cause me to dislike her, or not want to assist her when she needed me. It made me anxious that her complaining would poison the attitudes of the others within my team.

I miss caring for patients. I miss making them feel that their bodily functions and waste products are nothing to be ashamed of. I miss making them feel that they really are in control of their situation when they felt the opposite. I miss just listening to them speak even if what they said was incomprehensible or made no sense. i miss telling Mrs. X what was on her breakfast tray every 5 seconds while feeding her. I miss making patients feel safe and hopeful. I miss their family members, who were so grateful to me for taking good care of their family member. I miss the hugs I got when they went home. The very last patient I had in med-surg was a physician. She told me what a great nurse I was and passed the information on to the head nurse and her physician. i will always remember her.

Because it is a profession comprised primarily of women and women can be vicious, catty, jealous beotches. Not only that, but you are taking women of all ages and throwing them together. I have always found it was the older, fatter unattractive, bitter battleaxes that " eat their young" . It's as though they are trying to get back at all the girls who were mean to them in high school.

I work as a LVN in the hospital and registries working with these women is really just a headache. They are always trying to put their work on some else. They try to make their job seem so hard even though it isn't. They are just running around trying to scam out of work or stabbing each other in the back.

This is a serious post! I'm no where near being a nurse as of yet and I can identify completely! This is one of the main reasons I want to become a REAL NURSE. I've experienced some horrible interactions with horrible nurses as a patient, so I can only imagine how it would be to work with one. Where is the care? Where is the teamwork? I miss the days of the bright smiled caring nurses. Whether they cared or not, you believed they did. This social media age is killing us! No I'm not an old fogie. I'm in my thirties, and I can't belive the hearts and motives of people these days. I have soooo much respect for true nurses. And I don't wann hear "Well, you're not a nurse yet, so you would'nt know. The job makes you that way" Bull!!!!!!!!

What's the worst that can happen if you speak up, or defend yourself in a situation? NURSES PLEASE RESPOND!!!

It probably depends on who you "stand up too" and how you do it. Also where you work.

This is interesting. Can you get fired? If so, who is allowed to fire you? I can't imagine losing my job for defending myself (respectfully) from someone who disrespects or demeans me. I'm anxious to know this.

There are lots of dyanamics that come into play in these situations; sadly, very few have anything to do with the real issue at hand or patient care. The dyanmics have to do with a lot of the pettiness that women deal with with since elementary school (the Queen Bee, her Worker Bees, the Mean Girl(s), etc.) In adults I've witnessed things like generational differences and racially differences and issues come into play too.

I would never tell someone not to defend themselves but just realize that there can be unfortunate, unfair and unethical consequences for the person who defends themselves that are far worse than the original offense.

Trust me on this one. This is a second-career for me, I'm in my mid-forties and have seen this happen time and time again over the years.

It probably depends on who you "stand up too" and how you do it. Also where you work.

..and, who the person you stand up to, is friends with!!!!