What is a cna turnover

hookyarnandblanket · May 23, 2014

Turnover is the amount of people hired who end up quitting. The higher the turnover rate, the more likely it is that the facility has major issues either with staffing ratios, patient load, or administration.

Siaryyy · May 23, 2014

Oh ok thank you. And do you know what's the avg amt of pt to cna?

hughesn2 · May 23, 2014

Yeah, it is all about how many people quit. I had a CNA position for 2 months and couldn't stand it anymore. It was a rehab and long term care center. When I was in the rehab portion the job was the easiest thing ever. Unfortunately, it also had to do with the RN I was with over in that unit. He was great and understood the job was not hard.

When I went over to the long term care unit for the last three weeks I had 14-16 patients per midnight shift (yeah, I worked 11pm-7am) and had 1 nurse between me and one other CNA on the next 14-16 patients. The facility gets away with breaking the nursing laws because they can say part of one unit is a rehab center and not long term care even though everybody was at least 70 years old.

I was told on training that they had a very high turnover rate. It was a very nice looking facility, but the RNs were lazy and did jack sh*t all night. If I asked for any help with a patient they refused. When I offered suggestion to the HR department when one of the RNs told her that I left an incontinent patient in their soaked brief and the HR director's response was "Well, you don't see anybody else complaining or having the issues you have."

This place has 4 units, soon to be 5 when they open up the section currently closed, yet just 7 employed CNAs for the night shift. So when you have rules of every other Saturday and Sunday each employee gets off there are just 4 CNAs for 4 whole units (about 80 beds when low and 100 when full).

Siaryyy · May 24, 2014

Wow that is scary crazy. I hope that I find a decent ltc facility and nurses aren't too bad to deal w. Where I did my clinicals some cna's didn't wanna help others. So when does team work actually come in effect?

hookyarnandblanket · May 24, 2014

There are places where teamwork is a foreign concept until state surveyors show up. And there are places that even state survey doesn't change the way they do things. Unfortunately, it's difficult to know this until you start working in most cases. I had an inkling about my former facility but took the job anyway because it paid more than what the other place had offered me. I stayed there a year too long because I wanted the experience. Once I had it, I left and after I left, so did about 5 more people. Census dropped due to death and people figuring out what a horrible place it's turned into.

If you want to know about a place's turnover, ask. They aren't going to reveal that information voluntarily.

Siaryyy · May 25, 2014

Wow thanks for the information I will ask. I was googling good questions to ask at an interview and that question came up so I wanted to know so I could ask.

tparty55 · Oct 13, 2018

I have been nurse aide almost nine years and turnover is high because it can be a thankless job under paid under staff fill in when you are crazy hours you are surrounded red by c diff blood diseases and death plus fat obese people it's a thankless job and lazy nurses overworked to exhaustion plus your back that's just part of it so much to put on an area and people wonder why there is a high turnover and no show