Valencia College/UCF Concurrent Spring 2020 Applicants

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Hey Everyone!!

I'm starting a thread for those who applied to VC/UCF Concurrent program for Spring 2020. I think these have been helpful for others in the past and I haven't seen one for spring 2020 yet. Feel free to drop questions, comments or concerns. I know the Seminole State Concurrent program received their acceptances last Friday (10/11), anybody have an idea when we'll receive ours?

1 hour ago, Nursesinprogress said:

Congrats @rvidal17!! Do you think there’s a Facebook group or something?

Thanks! Idk, i dont have FB but i tried looking for it and didnt find anything. kinda hoping they'll find this then a GC can be made

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Do you/anyone know if all compliance documents are due on the 4th?

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On 10/29/2019 at 3:25 PM, Nursesinprogress said:

Do you/anyone know if all compliance documents are due on the 4th?

yeah im pretty sure thats what the email said

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Hey guys,

I was in the valencia concurrent program this year. I just wanted to let you guys know that this valencia program is the worst. I have never been pushed to my limit like this in my whole life. Now I am not saying we are the smartest people in the world but there are students who naturally get straight-As ..that are failing. Just to keep it clear because I was confused about this before I got in the concurrent program: The only difference of the valencia concurrent program and valencia nursing program is that concurrent students take an extra class, which is a UCF class, taken in the valencia's west campus every Friday and it was pathophysiology. You will take that extra class until you get your ASN. Valencia nursing students and valencia concurrent students go to the same class, same time( depending on if you applied to Osceola or west campus)

Our UCF class was a breeze, although it was pathophysiology which to me is very difficult, our professor was the sweetest and gave us study guides and such. I am not sure if she will be there for next semester.

Now on to Valencia's program...

Here is just a warning of what is to be expected. Valencia's nursing 1 course is known to "weed" out students. There is a starting of 130 students, it ends up being to 70-50 students after nursing 1.

-They will grade by points. 770 points are passing or 78% is passing.

-The only things that are worth points are the 5 main exams, 2 quizzes, mini-exam, and HESI exam.

-This semester, more than 50% are failing or withdrew, most are passing by the bare minimum.

-The exam is based on the textbook. Expect 5-9 chapters for each test. Each chapter consists of 10-40 pages.

- No powerpoint from the professors in class will be posted online, either you would have to write really fast or just read the book because powerpoints basically summarizes the book. They won't emphasize anything that's "important" for the exam either.

-NO pictures, videos or recordings are allowed during the lecture.

-You will have assignments but are without points so you get either a complete or incomplete on your grade.

-Professors really don't know anything that's gonna be on the exam,I don't know if they are doing this purposefully. If you ask what's going to be the exam , their response = read the book.

-so you are going to skills check off, that's where they will observe how you do a physical assessment, how you take vital signs, inserting a nasogastric tube, wound cleaning and etc, they will give you shortest demonstration of how to do those skills, usually under 10 minutes. Most of the skills I have learned from making appointments with tutors and watching other students perform it constantly.

- THERE NO SUCH THINGS AS A CURVE, as I mentioned earlier, it's based on points. If you were to get 769 points that do not mean it will be "rounded" to a 770 which is a bare minimum passing score.

-If you end up failing or withdrawing, just know that you need to wait ONE semester to redo the class. If I failed the fall term, I would have to wait the spring semester to do the class in summer.

- But wait there's more! It isn't 100% that you will get back in one semester , sometimes you would have to wait for TWO semesters! this because it gives a chance for the people who failed before you to redo the class.

-I don't know if they will change the curriculum of the course or make the exams easier. I just know a lot of people are not where they wanted to be this semester. I found it odd that there isn't a single bad review about valencia nursing program, maybe it could our semester but this has been an ongoing problem.

Now here are some good things about valencia's program.

-After nursing 1, if you survive I've heard that nursing 2,3,4 are pretty relaxed nursing 5 is when it gets tough again.

I have heard a lot of good things about Seminole, so I might transfer there. Valencia made it so easy for people to get in with a 3.0 and teas of 68, just so they can weed them out in nursing 1.

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1 hour ago, PoMiiii said:

Hey guys,

I was in the valencia concurrent program this year. I just wanted to let you guys know that this valencia program is the worst. I have never been pushed to my limit like this in my whole life. Now I am not saying we are the smartest people in the world but there are students who naturally get straight-As ..that are failing. Just to keep it clear because I was confused about this before I got in the concurrent program: The only difference of the valencia concurrent program and valencia nursing program is that concurrent students take an extra class, which is a UCF class, taken in the valencia's west campus every Friday and it was pathophysiology. You will take that extra class until you get your ASN. Valencia nursing students and valencia concurrent students go to the same class, same time( depending on if you applied to Osceola or west campus)

Our UCF class was a breeze, although it was pathophysiology which to me is very difficult, our professor was the sweetest and gave us study guides and such. I am not sure if she will be there for next semester.

Now on to Valencia's program...

Here is just a warning of what is to be expected. Valencia's nursing 1 course is known to "weed" out students. There is a starting of 130 students, it ends up being to 70-50 students after nursing 1.

-They will grade by points. 770 points are passing or 78% is passing.

-The only things that are worth points are the 5 main exams, 2 quizzes, mini-exam, and HESI exam.

-This semester, more than 50% are failing or withdrew, most are passing by the bare minimum.

-The exam is based on the textbook. Expect 5-9 chapters for each test. Each chapter consists of 10-40 pages.

- No powerpoint from the professors in class will be posted online, either you would have to write really fast or just read the book because powerpoints basically summarizes the book. They won't emphasize anything that's "important" for the exam either.

-NO pictures, videos or recordings are allowed during the lecture.

-You will have assignments but are without points so you get either a complete or incomplete on your grade.

-Professors really don't know anything that's gonna be on the exam,I don't know if they are doing this purposefully. If you ask what's going to be the exam , their response = read the book.

-so you are going to skills check off, that's where they will observe how you do a physical assessment, how you take vital signs, inserting a nasogastric tube, wound cleaning and etc, they will give you shortest demonstration of how to do those skills, usually under 10 minutes. Most of the skills I have learned from making appointments with tutors and watching other students perform it constantly.

- THERE NO SUCH THINGS AS A CURVE, as I mentioned earlier, it's based on points. If you were to get 769 points that do not mean it will be "rounded" to a 770 which is a bare minimum passing score.

-If you end up failing or withdrawing, just know that you need to wait ONE semester to redo the class. If I failed the fall term, I would have to wait the spring semester to do the class in summer.

- But wait there's more! It isn't 100% that you will get back in one semester , sometimes you would have to wait for TWO semesters! this because it gives a chance for the people who failed before you to redo the class.

-I don't know if they will change the curriculum of the course or make the exams easier. I just know a lot of people are not where they wanted to be this semester. I found it odd that there isn't a single bad review about valencia nursing program, maybe it could our semester but this has been an ongoing problem.

Now here are some good things about valencia's program.

-After nursing 1, if you survive I've heard that nursing 2,3,4 are pretty relaxed nursing 5 is when it gets tough again.

I have heard a lot of good things about Seminole, so I might transfer there. Valencia made it so easy for people to get in with a 3.0 and teas of 68, just so they can weed them out in nursing 1.

This is literally the type of review I wanted for both schools before I had to pick one.

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1 hour ago, PoMiiii said:

Hey guys,

I was in the valencia concurrent program this year. I just wanted to let you guys know that this valencia program is the worst. I have never been pushed to my limit like this in my whole life. Now I am not saying we are the smartest people in the world but there are students who naturally get straight-As ..that are failing. Just to keep it clear because I was confused about this before I got in the concurrent program: The only difference of the valencia concurrent program and valencia nursing program is that concurrent students take an extra class, which is a UCF class, taken in the valencia's west campus every Friday and it was pathophysiology. You will take that extra class until you get your ASN. Valencia nursing students and valencia concurrent students go to the same class, same time( depending on if you applied to Osceola or west campus)

Our UCF class was a breeze, although it was pathophysiology which to me is very difficult, our professor was the sweetest and gave us study guides and such. I am not sure if she will be there for next semester.

Now on to Valencia's program...

Here is just a warning of what is to be expected. Valencia's nursing 1 course is known to "weed" out students. There is a starting of 130 students, it ends up being to 70-50 students after nursing 1.

-They will grade by points. 770 points are passing or 78% is passing.

-The only things that are worth points are the 5 main exams, 2 quizzes, mini-exam, and HESI exam.

-This semester, more than 50% are failing or withdrew, most are passing by the bare minimum.

-The exam is based on the textbook. Expect 5-9 chapters for each test. Each chapter consists of 10-40 pages.

- No powerpoint from the professors in class will be posted online, either you would have to write really fast or just read the book because powerpoints basically summarizes the book. They won't emphasize anything that's "important" for the exam either.

-NO pictures, videos or recordings are allowed during the lecture.

-You will have assignments but are without points so you get either a complete or incomplete on your grade.

-Professors really don't know anything that's gonna be on the exam,I don't know if they are doing this purposefully. If you ask what's going to be the exam , their response = read the book.

-so you are going to skills check off, that's where they will observe how you do a physical assessment, how you take vital signs, inserting a nasogastric tube, wound cleaning and etc, they will give you shortest demonstration of how to do those skills, usually under 10 minutes. Most of the skills I have learned from making appointments with tutors and watching other students perform it constantly.

- THERE NO SUCH THINGS AS A CURVE, as I mentioned earlier, it's based on points. If you were to get 769 points that do not mean it will be "rounded" to a 770 which is a bare minimum passing score.

-If you end up failing or withdrawing, just know that you need to wait ONE semester to redo the class. If I failed the fall term, I would have to wait the spring semester to do the class in summer.

- But wait there's more! It isn't 100% that you will get back in one semester , sometimes you would have to wait for TWO semesters! this because it gives a chance for the people who failed before you to redo the class.

-I don't know if they will change the curriculum of the course or make the exams easier. I just know a lot of people are not where they wanted to be this semester. I found it odd that there isn't a single bad review about valencia nursing program, maybe it could our semester but this has been an ongoing problem.

Now here are some good things about valencia's program.

-After nursing 1, if you survive I've heard that nursing 2,3,4 are pretty relaxed nursing 5 is when it gets tough again.

I have heard a lot of good things about Seminole, so I might transfer there. Valencia made it so easy for people to get in with a 3.0 and teas of 68, just so they can weed them out in nursing 1.

wow thank you for this, idk why more students dont do this. do you mind explaining what the schedule is like? and cost? because those are two things i cant find answers to. and now im freaking out lol

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50 minutes ago, rvidal17 said:

wow thank you for this, idk why more students dont do this. do you mind explaining what the schedule is like? and cost? because those are two things i cant find answers to. and now im freaking out lol

No problem,

the schedule for concurrent

  • M&W 9 am -11:50 am (west/Osceola wherever you applied)
  • Thursday is lab day/clinical day so it's from 8 am to 6 pm OR 6 am to 6pm?
  • F 9am-11:50 am west campus HSB building.

Cost

Ok so I don't know if you guys get FAFSA but a heads-up is that you can only get FAFSA only in one institution meaning that if you get FAFSA from valencia, you will not get FAFSA for UCF. It honestly wasn't big deal for me because I just paid for UCF out of pocket and I'd get that money back anyway from my FAFSA refund.

  • The cost for valencia was around $1077 because its a 10 credit course.
  • The cost for UCF which is only one class is around $670 or so.

Also not sure if the price is the same for everyone, but it should be because each valencia class is $300 something.

I didn't include the price of all textbooks, uniforms, scrubs, lab bag cuz honestly, it's like another $600 unless you can get cheap alternatives.

One thing I wish i knew before orientation is to BRING CASH! they didn't tell us they didn't accept card until the day of orientation, so we all had to line up at the ATM and pay a fee. I would bring around $60-80.

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I hope I don't confuse you guys for the next things I'm gonna say cuz yall aren't in the program yet but it's good to know if you plan on going to the program

Lab days

In the beginning of the semester, you guys will not be going to clinical until like 4-6 weeks of being in the program.

so until then, every Thursday will be 8am -6pm in your campus (west/Osceola)

Lab around this time is mostly lectures and some skill teaching.


Clinical days

here is where it gets tricky..

you and your classmates will be divided into four groups. (group 1,2,3,4)

You will have clinical sites which are usually 30 min away from west campus MAX

Two groups will go to the clinical site, where you are assigned a CNA (certified nursing assistant) and practically follow them around and help them do tasks like bed baths and passing out snacks to residents.

The other two groups will go to the lab which WILL be on the west campus, even if you applied to Osceola. In lab, you will learn how to do skills or it will be the day of your skills test.

During half of the day, the groups will SWITCH, meaning if you were in clinical the first half of the day, you will go to the west campus lab for the rest of the day or vice versa.

It is going to be written on your class schedule (which will be given to you after you get in) of which group goes first to clinical and which group goes to the west campus.

  • The groups are assigned to go to clinical FIRST will have to be at the clinical site BY 6:30 am
  • The groups assigned to go to west FIRST will have to be at the west campus lab by 8 am
  • you have one hour to get to the clinical/west campus usually around 12:00 pm to 1:00 pm.
  • Each Thursday, it will alternate, meaning if you went to clinical first, last Thursday, then you will be going to west campus the next Thursday.

Sorry if I don't make any sense, tried my best to explain what I know. If you guys want something to be clarified plz let me knooo.

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On 11/1/2019 at 8:27 PM, PoMiiii said:

No problem,

the schedule for concurrent

  • M&W 9 am -11:50 am (west/Osceola wherever you applied)
  • Thursday is lab day/clinical day so it's from 8 am to 6 pm OR 6 am to 6pm?
  • F 9am-11:50 am west campus HSB building.

Cost

Ok so I don't know if you guys get FAFSA but a heads-up is that you can only get FAFSA only in one institution meaning that if you get FAFSA from valencia, you will not get FAFSA for UCF. It honestly wasn't big deal for me because I just paid for UCF out of pocket and I'd get that money back anyway from my FAFSA refund.

  • The cost for valencia was around $1077 because its a 10 credit course.
  • The cost for UCF which is only one class is around $670 or so.

Also not sure if the price is the same for everyone, but it should be because each valencia class is $300 something.

I didn't include the price of all textbooks, uniforms, scrubs, lab bag cuz honestly, it's like another $600 unless you can get cheap alternatives.

One thing I wish i knew before orientation is to BRING CASH! they didn't tell us they didn't accept card until the day of orientation, so we all had to line up at the ATM and pay a fee. I would bring around $60-80.

____________________________________________

I hope I don't confuse you guys for the next things I'm gonna say cuz yall aren't in the program yet but it's good to know if you plan on going to the program

Lab days

In the beginning of the semester, you guys will not be going to clinical until like 4-6 weeks of being in the program.

so until then, every Thursday will be 8am -6pm in your campus (west/Osceola)

Lab around this time is mostly lectures and some skill teaching.


Clinical days

here is where it gets tricky..

you and your classmates will be divided into four groups. (group 1,2,3,4)

You will have clinical sites which are usually 30 min away from west campus MAX

Two groups will go to the clinical site, where you are assigned a CNA (certified nursing assistant) and practically follow them around and help them do tasks like bed baths and passing out snacks to residents.

The other two groups will go to the lab which WILL be on the west campus, even if you applied to Osceola. In lab, you will learn how to do skills or it will be the day of your skills test.

During half of the day, the groups will SWITCH, meaning if you were in clinical the first half of the day, you will go to the west campus lab for the rest of the day or vice versa.

It is going to be written on your class schedule (which will be given to you after you get in) of which group goes first to clinical and which group goes to the west campus.

  • The groups are assigned to go to clinical FIRST will have to be at the clinical site BY 6:30 am
  • The groups assigned to go to west FIRST will have to be at the west campus lab by 8 am
  • you have one hour to get to the clinical/west campus usually around 12:00 pm to 1:00 pm.
  • Each Thursday, it will alternate, meaning if you went to clinical first, last Thursday, then you will be going to west campus the next Thursday.

Sorry if I don't make any sense, tried my best to explain what I know. If you guys want something to be clarified plz let me knooo.

thank you again for this!!! for your class was there some kind of groupchat made? im surprised there isnt more people here. also, i saw on the valencia traditional spring 2020 post that they recommend to start studying dosing now? do you agree? how the heck do they expect us to do that ?

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2 hours ago, rvidal17 said:

thank you again for this!!! for your class was there some kind of groupchat made? im surprised there isnt more people here. also, i saw on the valencia traditional spring 2020 post that they recommend to start studying dosing now? do you agree? how the heck do they expect us to do that ?

We all made a chat after orientation, and you have like a whole year to study and what not so don't worry. Dosage should be the least of your worries. Dosage is mostly dimensional analysis and conversion and memorization. They make you buy this book and they base the test off of it. I'd just say to memorize measurements like mg to mcg, grams to micrograms, Liter to milliliter, ounces to oz, and also abbreviations ( that they will give you) for now.

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2 hours ago, PoMiiii said:

We all made a chat after orientation, and you have like a whole year to study and what not so don't worry. Dosage should be the least of your worries. Dosage is mostly dimensional analysis and conversion and memorization. They make you buy this book and they base the test off of it. I'd just say to memorize measurements like mg to mcg, grams to micrograms, Liter to milliliter, ounces to oz, and also abbreviations ( that they will give you) for now.

whoops, I didn't realize spring 2020 was next semester!

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Thank you @PoMiiii the information is really useful. How is everyone doing on completing all of the forms?

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On 11/1/2019 at 4:16 PM, PoMiiii said:

Hey guys,

I was in the valencia concurrent program this year. I just wanted to let you guys know that this valencia program is the worst. I have never been pushed to my limit like this in my whole life. Now I am not saying we are the smartest people in the world but there are students who naturally get straight-As ..that are failing. Just to keep it clear because I was confused about this before I got in the concurrent program: The only difference of the valencia concurrent program and valencia nursing program is that concurrent students take an extra class, which ....

Jeez this sounds brutal. Glad I avoided this program and got into SSC's. Good luck to everyone

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