Published Jul 20, 2008
GilaRRT
1,905 Posts
Where are you going with this? Every tool is simply something we use to help us hopefully appreciate the big picture. Are we attempting to discredit pulse oximetry and capnography? I am not sure that is possible with the data at hand.
We can tell a bit about oxygenation, ventilation, metabolism, and tube placement with pulse oximetry and capnography. These; however, may not help with the other million or so things that can go wrong during a MAC.
Babs0512
846 Posts
Personally, I think is it common sense, treat the patient, not the monitor. Any nurse with a reasonable amount of experience can tell just by talking to a patient and observing their breathing pattern, color, whether they can speak in sentences, etc... whether or not they are having respiratory difficulty. I don't need a pulse ox to tell me that, I may get one as a baseline, but if my respiratory distress came from a fire, then the pulse ox would probably fall within the normal range - yet my patient is clearly distressed, again, treat the patient not the monitor.
No different for cardiac monitoring. If my monitor tells me the patient is in a sinus rhythm, but they are unresponsive and not breathing, I guess I better start thinking of either monitor malfunction or PEA while coding my patient.
There will unfortunately always be those who get excited and freaked out by a monitor reading, most of the time, assessing your patient will either help you to relax a bit, OR help you to conclude the monitor was right.
A computerized piece of equipment is NOT a substitute for a qualified and experienced nurse. The equipment is only as good as the nurses ability to interpret what he/she sees and assess if it correlates with their assessment of the patient.
birdgardner
333 Posts
You can do a little experiment with the pulse ox - how long can you hold your breath before the numbers drop?
About 70 seconds here and the SpO2 actually rose a little bit before falling the two times I tried.
The capnometer has the advantage there, and so does watching the patient.
Well, we cannot compare pulse oximetry and capnography in that way. Pulse oximetry is more of an indicator of oxygenation, while capnography is more of a measure of ventilation. Two related but different concepts.
On a side note. A healthy well oxygenated adult will take several minutes to desaturate.