Published Nov 24, 2009
zomofo
3 Posts
Hello all! I'm new to the forum (as a registered member anyway) but have really enjoyed being able to learn about various aspects of nursing through here! Everyone seems so helpful! I hope someone can help me with my question :)
So I am planning on going into a nursing program for the Fall 2010 (hopefully) semester. I already have a BFA (graduated 2008) so thankfully I'm able to get a 2nd degree a little faster than the first one. I want to get an ADN/RN license through the local community college and then do the RN -> BSN program online or through the health college nearby. This is really the only way I'd be able to go back to school and work full time as well. Here's my question though...
The community college is not NLNAC or CCNE accredited - it is (verbatim per the program catalog) "approved by the Virginia Board of Nursing and is a member of the National League of Nursing...accredited by the Southern Association of Colleges and School (SACS)...does not participate in voluntary NLNAC accreditation". Based on the research I've done, once I have an RN license, the fact that my school is not NLNAC/CCNE accredited means I can't practice nursing outside of my own state. However, if I went to a school that *IS* NLNAC/CCNE certified for my BSN program, would that change my license status so that I could practice outside of VA? My biggest concern is for getting into CRNA school eventually. That really what I want to do with my career and I would hate to mess up my chances of getting into CRNA school this early on! Any advice at all would be fantastic!
thejoebear
25 Posts
Accredited vs non-Accredited is just about the TOP issue you better get figured out for any school in any state!
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There are MANY schools across the country claiming to be nursing schools and the time and money you spend attending them is a total and complete waste!
Every state has its own rules and policies regarding this matter. I would never waste the time to even apply to a school ANYWHERE if I did not know its standings both present and past. Save yourself a lot time and money. Call your state board of nursing is where I started off looking up information. Talk to an R.N. and Do internet research until you find the EXACT information you need.. Good luck
I keep trying to find internet info on the subject but nothing is really answering my question specifically. I can find all sorts of information regarding what the accreditation means and so forth and so on but nothing as to whether or not the accredited BSN program will override my non-accredited ADN program...
HM2VikingRN, RN
4,700 Posts
Contact the BON and ask a very specific question. If they say that subsequent attendance at an accredited school counts ask them for a followup letter verifying the conversation. If they are unwilling to do that then I would look for an accredited school to attend from day one. (Come to think of it I think that is the best solution.)
Your BON will know. I think your in for some bad news, but that is just a gut feeling. AN ACCREDITED SCHOOL that graduates you in a Nursing program is the foundation you need before taking your Boards; I am pretty sure it is mandatory aspect of taking your boards.
I am interested if an Accredited BSN can and will replace the un-accredited ADN situation though. That be nice for people who got screwed over by schools that lied to them or were shut down due to the incompetency of the schools administration and or instructors... Good Luck!
CRNA??? That is one of the most advanced and difficult Nursing fields available. The competition into those programs is similar to trying to get into MEDICAL SCHOOL. If you are serious about doing that I am pretty sure your going about that goal of becoming a CRNA in the totally wrong way!
FIRST, most accredited nursing schools will NOT ALLOW you to work full time and go to Nursing School at the same time.
The idea that you can DO BOTH AT THE SAME TIME may be showing WHY this ADN program has such a non/weird accreditation.
I am not sure you can go on and get the P.h.D.; BTW, that P.h.D. is GOING TO BE required for CRNA's in the near future a pal told me who teaches at a CRNA school. I think you are not going to be accepted into any GRADUATE CRNA program in the U.S. COMING FROM A NON-ACCREDITED ADN SCHOOL.
HELL, I had to get my high school transcripts from all most 30 years ago to just file my application to a basic ADN program.
I cannot see why a CRNA school would bother with your application when there is 100+ other students applying for the same seat that have only attended accredited schools as their undergraduate degrees. Sorry to sound harsh but that is how these schools think.
I am about to start an ADN program in Jan and my study partner all ready has a P.h.D. in Biology and has worked in cancer research labs for years with his P.h.D. and he can not work full time and go to an ADN Nursing School at the same time.
I think you have underestimated what kind of HELL nursing school really is! You better do some more research real fast. I think your about to waste a year or so that you could better use by following the normal path people follow to become R.N.s. Good Luck
Well, the ADN program *IS* accredited by the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools and is approved by the state BON. It's just not NLNAC or CCNE accredited. And after completion of the ADN you are eligible to sit for the NCLEX-RN. From what I'm understanding from the RN to BSN programs websites (from fully accredited schools), your credits from the ADN program transfer into them. All in all it would appear to me that these BSN programs essentially "claim" the transferred in classes and your BSN is what's going to matter when you apply for CRNA school. I emailed the BON to ask them about this situation but haven't heard back yet. If I don't hear anything back by mid next week I'm going to try and call them.
From what I understand (a lot from the allnurses forum) many people have jobs while they're in nursing school. Some cut back to part time, but most are still employed. My aunt who is working for her BSN is employed (and at the same company that I'm about to start at). I am trying to take as many pre-reqs as possible before I actually start the nursing program so that it makes it easier when I am actually in the program. I'm hoping to knock out the psych, A&P I/II, microbiology, med terminology, etc in the next year and then I will only have the core nursing classes once in the nursing program.
I know that CRNA schools do not allow students to work and you end up taking out additional loans to cover the cost of living but I'm no where near that close to that point in my life.
Thank you for all your advice though - I really appreciate your input :)