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Hi,

I'm currently an ABSN student at Samuel Merritt University (SMU), CA and I'm creating this topic to give prospective nursing students an inside scoop of what is currently going on at SMU. I strongly believe in transparency, especially when there's so much at stake in terms of money, time, and effort. Unfortunately, the current leadership at SMU has done a poor job of communicating with its students, so I hope that this will serve some good and give prospective applicants more information to make a more educated and informed decision before committing to SMU. 

TL:Dr

Just get through nursing school. I would place SMU as a plan C/backup option behind ADN or State ABSN program. If SMU is the only one you got, then take the "L" and just get through the program. Don't involve yourself with the drama, don't rely on teachers or other students, don't look at your bank account/loans (you'll pay it back quick when you land a job in CA, especially Bay Area), and make the most out of your clinical experience.

Good luck!

I'll be frank, the image of SMU you see online is not the same as when you attend.

1. The faculty-to-student ratio is 50 students : 1 professor.

2. You're most likely not going to be meeting in person for lecture (online, asynchronous,review w/ prof over zoom or webex 1-2 times per week). In other words, expect to do a lot of self-teaching. Also, not all professors are good (you'll maybe have 3/10 professors who can actually teach)

3. You'll have skills labs at the beginning of the program and then the labs will gradually decrease in frequency as you progress (from 1 per week, to 1 every other week, to 1 per month, to whenever the clinical instructor feels like it).

4. Your simulation labs are even less frequent (0-1 per month)

5. There are SMU tutors available and they are typically students in the same program who are maybe 1-2 cohorts ahead of you.

Typical block schedule for classes/clinicals

Mon: Review Session hosted by professor (2hrs)

Tues/Wed: Test days (can have 1-2 tests per day)

Thurs/Fri or Sat/Sun: Skills/SIMs Labs (2-3hrs) or Clinicals (8-12hrs)

*Any down time is typically used to catch up on lecture recordings, attend tutor/prof review, and study

*You'll have 2 classes per section (5-unit class + 2-3 unit class). The 5-units can be challenging (Medical Care for Adults, Peds, Maternity, etc.) and require the highest investment of time.

*You'll have 1 cumulative HESI test worth 10% of your overall grade by the end of the class section (week 4) and HESI Case Studies & Adaptive Quizzes

*You may need to write multiple Care Plans (1 per week) for Clinicals, some CIs require additional projects/hwk, and you need to write midterm/final evals for clinicals (busy work)

Tuition Costs

For 2023-2024, SMU is going to increase tuition by 5.0%. For ABSN, this equates to $89,128 for the entire program (not including living, food, & travel expenses). This also does not include extra certifications that will be replacing the preceptorships (I.e. ACLS, PALS etc.). Looking at other ABSN programs, SMU charges one of the highest rates by far. This wouldn't be so much of a problem except we are paying more than alumni for less opportunities and experiences (I.e. no preceptorships, less skills/SIMs labs in some instances, no in-person lectures, not using any of SMU facilities, etc.).

Preceptorship

The #1 issue at SMU at the moment. SMU has decided to cut preceptorships entirely from their program. For those who don't know, preceptorships were 1:1 pairing with a preceptor nurse while you cared for a set number of patients. You would be the nurse making the decisions for patient care, documenting, and communicating with other healthcare providers (I.e. SBAR). The preceptor would be shadowing you to make sure you didn't kill the patient and guide you into hopefully becoming a better nurse. If you did well or showed promise, then you could potentially be offered a job position at your preceptorship hospital in the department you precepted (typically the department that you wanted in the first place).

However, when COVID hit, a lot of hospitals shut their doors to everyone but essential personnel which also meant clinicals/preceptorships were put on hold. Many hospitals cut their preceptorships entirely during this time. According to SMU, as of 2022-2023 only 20% of affiliated SMU hospitals continued their preceptorship programs. Therefore, SMU decided to also cut it's preceptorship program due to "equity" reasons since SMU couldn't guarantee preceptorship placement to all of its students.

This pissed off a lot of students. Some cohorts decided to sue the school for cutting programs and not refunding students. Others sent emails that were met with tone-deaf replies. We recently had one cohort send an email to the CEO of SMU which led to the replacement of the dean (ouch!). We've also had a couple townhall meetings where we met with program directors/dean and discussed our concerns and suggestions on how to improve the program (I.e. more SIMs, not having to pay for extra certifications, going out on our own to find preceptorships, etc.). They made a lot of promises, but so far nothing has been done to change anything.

What next?

Looking at the big picture, what can we do about this? Currently, SMU is the only ABSN program that exists on the West Coast that is able to expand and offer additional seats for students who want the fast track into the nursing profession. All of the ADN programs are backed up and use drawing/point systems for applicants. The other ABSN programs are run by state universities, so are capped in terms of applicant acceptance with no outlook of expanding. SMU is currently in a unique position to expand and capture the oversupply of applicants that are currently being waitlisted by other institutions. AND THEY KNOW IT AND ARE CAPITALIZING ON IT. They just got approval for a $139 million bond at the start of this year (Jan 2023) to build their flagship campus in Oakland City Center, and plans to utilize $120 million of its own reserves to complete the facility.

What does this mean for you? Know what you're getting yourself into. If you're hoping for a high-end education experience and expect the school to tailor to your needs, you're gonna be disappointed. If you understand that you're gonna be dropping $100k (with rates most likely going to continue to rise) for a sub-par community college experience where you're gonna be self-studying 100% and have to fight for your experience at clinicals, then SMU is for you!

SMU is going through a lot of management changes right now, so it's hard for even students to get answers, so feel your pain regarding communication...

I personally decided not to work at all during this 1-year ABSN program, and I think it was a good move from a grade perspective. For at least the first half of the program, the clinical rotations plus the rigorous material from the MCA series (med-surg, critical care, etc.) required a lot of time management and focus that would otherwise be compromised with having to also commit to a work schedule.

With that being said, I know plenty of people in the program who are working and are taking care of someone else (I.e. grandparents, kids, etc.). Some were able to make it work, while others struggled and had to drop out at a loss (I.e. time and money investment). It's a good sign that the number of people who had to drop out was a small percentage of our cohort (I.e. about 10 out of 50), but can't speak for other cohorts. However, not sure how this impact grades and grades are worth a lot for new grad nurse residency programs.

I would highly recommend not working while going through this program. You're investing about $90k on tuition, keep that in mind.

For living expenses, if you can live with family or friends during this time, I would recommend that as well. The cost of living in the Bay Area is insane at the moment and the cost of the program doesn't help either. When I applied to schools in LA, I thought about living in a cargo van for the year and parking near a gym, laundromat, and grocery store then biking or uber for commute. I don't think it's worth paying $2500-$3000 per month ($30,000-36,000/yr) for rent not including groceries and the cost of tuition. If you're interested in the van life, here's a good resource to help with that: https://thevanual.com/. This is just my opinion, so do what you gotta do. Hope this helps, good luck!

xmlvgp said:

Hi all! I'm a provisional admit and #5 on the waitlist for this Fall '23 cohort in San Mateo. Luckily, if things do not work out, I have admission for Spring '24. However, Samuel Merritt is my last resort as it's an earlier start date than other ABSN programs/ ABSN is already limited here in NorCal. I was wondering from the current/ graduated students if working part-time is doable? I've heard many students do per-diem jobs and that works out. As for those who moved out to be closer to the school how is that? I know rent is pricey in they bay ? 

 

Just trying to get a sense of some things as I'm somewhat already in the dark with finding out one of the advisor's for San Mateo is no longer employed anymore and it takes very long to hear back from staff unless you reach out to them... Especially regarding the waitlist updates I always had to email first about it, but they mentioned they'd let me know whenever there was a change ?

 

I just got accepted to the 2024 Summer ABSN program at the Oakland campus. Can anyone give any feedback on how the ABSN program at Samuel Merritt currently is? Samuel Merritt was one of my top choices but after hearing about the changes happening, I am hesitant or commit. 
 

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated, thanks!

xmlvgp said:

Hi all! I'm a provisional admit and #5 on the waitlist for this Fall '23 cohort in San Mateo. Luckily, if things do not work out, I have admission for Spring '24. However, Samuel Merritt is my last resort as it's an earlier start date than other ABSN programs/ ABSN is already limited here in NorCal. I was wondering from the current/ graduated students if working part-time is doable? I've heard many students do per-diem jobs and that works out. As for those who moved out to be closer to the school how is that? I know rent is pricey in they bay ? 

 

Just trying to get a sense of some things as I'm somewhat already in the dark with finding out one of the advisor's for San Mateo is no longer employed anymore and it takes very long to hear back from staff unless you reach out to them... Especially regarding the waitlist updates I always had to email first about it, but they mentioned they'd let me know whenever there was a change ?

Someone gave a great SMU review on reddit:

To comment on people employed at SMU, a lot of people were being fired or let go at SMU during my 1-year program. After our first townhall meeting, our dean "left" the college, so we were left with a bunch of interim deans and had to keep re-discussing our problems with them. We then lost of couple of advisors, some professors, and clinical instructors. It made logistics a nightmare as the remaining professors had to teach multiple sections, limited office hours, and noticeable change in behavior (I.e. short temper, callus email responses, etc.). The communication was bad before all these layoffs so it's probably worse now.

Can anyone give an update on all these circumstances and how SMU is currently doing as far as school life, faculty, ect? It seems like SO much was going on last year from the comments above. 

xmlvgp said:

Hi all! I'm a provisional admit and #5 on the waitlist for this Fall '23 cohort in San Mateo. Luckily, if things do not work out, I have admission for Spring '24. However, Samuel Merritt is my last resort as it's an earlier start date than other ABSN programs/ ABSN is already limited here in NorCal. I was wondering from the current/ graduated students if working part-time is doable? I've heard many students do per-diem jobs and that works out. As for those who moved out to be closer to the school how is that? I know rent is pricey in they bay ? 

 

Just trying to get a sense of some things as I'm somewhat already in the dark with finding out one of the advisor's for San Mateo is no longer employed anymore and it takes very long to hear back from staff unless you reach out to them... Especially regarding the waitlist updates I always had to email first about it, but they mentioned they'd let me know whenever there was a change ?

Hi, 

I was waitlisted position 10 out of 20 for the Spring term and I have a feeling things are not going to work out. If you don't mind telling me was there something you did that got you the provisional admit? 

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