Reasons for Flu Vaccine Reluctancy

Laidback Al · Oct 29, 2010

To NightNurse876, I apologize if you found my-tongue-in-cheek humor insulting.

grannyrn65 says it so much more diplomatically than I can.

I can respect a person's refusal to get a vaccination if it is based on a religious belief. But when nurses, who have been educated to follow the science, offering personal beliefs or poorly constructed scientific proof as their reason or a fear of government requiring more and more, as a reason, I think someone needs a refresher course or two. Or perhaps you need a job in an area of nursing that doesn't require patient interaction. You will be protected and so will the rest of the world. I am not trying to insult anyone, just making on a valid suggestion, for all of our protection.

grannyrn65 · Oct 29, 2010

I guess my concern lies in the H1N1 vaccine I know some ppl and have heard a few horror stories of reactions...I myself was given a bad batch of ppd for a skin test once so now I get chest x-rays bc it was unclear if my reaction was from exposure or the batch...And as much scientific evidence as there is to back up this topic you can find more against it. I guess that's part of my motivation to get into research in the coming years, so I can really have a true understanding of these things. Call me stubborn but I don't like to be forced to do something when I'm unsure of it...

I can understand your fear of the H1N5 vaccination. The strain of flu that it protected from was a new strain. Because it was a new strain, because no one had any resistance to this strain, I would think, that as a nurse, I would have been more fearful of getting that strain. In some respects, I agree with the statement that more research, on possible long term effects, is warrented but that should not be a reason for not getting the vaccination.

Your reaction to the PPD test, it is unlikely that you were given a bad batch. If you had been, the entity providing the test, would have received numerous complaints. I really do not know what caused your negative reaction. I received the BCG vaccination my first year in nursing school. Several years later I had a PPD, which I reacted badly to. For years I had chest x-rays in place of the PPD. I know what caused my negative reaction.

I am not sure what you mean by wanting to go into research. Research nurses, who work in various drug studies,have to follow a strict scientific process. Nurses who conduct nursing research also follow the same strict scientific process. Nurses who do bedside research (I did) have to follow strict guidelines. The research conducted,in such units, is generally based on equipment,procedures, medication, treatments.

I have gone to other boards where posters saying they are nurses, post opinions about the negative effects of vaccinations. When asked to furnish proof, they generally cite a study published in the Lancet. The problem with his 'research' is that it was poorly constructed. It was so poorly constructed and his method of research unorthodox, that his British license is under investigation. He is presently located in Texas. He is not a license physician here and his research clinic is under investigation here.

If one wants to cite research, please make sure that it is valid research, that can be duplicated and results published in peer review journals. Citing other peoples reactions to something has never been considered valid research. Or even one's own personal experience is not valid whn it is based on guess at it's cause. I didn't blame my reaction on a bad batch of PPD. My doctor questioned me, after a negative chest x-ray, my past history. It as only then that I recalled my BCG vaccination-the real cause.

For those that don't know wat BCG is, it was a vaccination that was give tohealth care workers to provide protection against TB. It was discontinued back in the late 60's. although, I understand, is still given in Europe.

GrannyRN65

rawmamaw · Oct 14, 2011

Granny,

you said:

Everyone has the right to refuse to get vaccinations. But the rest of us have the right to be protected from those that refuse. If it means isolating you or restricting your ability to work, that goes with your exercising your 'right'.

If you have exercised your right to "protect" yourself with vaccines why would you need to isolate me or restrict me from work to "protect" yourself from me?

and you said:

For those that refuse various vaccinations, for themselves or their children, I pray you donot get any of these illness. And if you do, I pray that I don't come in contact with you, I don't want to take the chance of getting sick. I suffer from several chronic disease and am quite careful about exposures.

Why are you afraid of "exposures" to what you are vaccinated against?? Aren't those vaccines going to protect you?

I am praying that you will be willing to learn the truth about this dirty Bu$ine$$ of vaccination. The history of it is available to all who are WILLING to see it.

You can find a lot of information about that and some TRUE HELP for you with your chronic diseases at these [and many other] websites:

http://barbfeick.com/vaccinations/index.html

http://www.drcarley.com/

God bless!

Laidback Al · Oct 14, 2011

rawmamaw --

Why did you dredge up this old thread to make your first post here at allnurses?

Is it to promote the links to anti-vaccine rhetoric on the two sites?

As I noted in another thread in post #110, I am certainly willing to consider alternative points of view if they are backed up with some scientific data. Conspiracy theories about vaccination don't cut it as any kind of proof.