Published Jan 10, 2008
beautydenia
25 Posts
hi! im having a hard time with my pathophysiology for my case presentation. May i ask for ur kind help, .. im trying to co -relate and make a pathophysiolgy of pulmonary tuberculosis with pneumonia... my case is, pregnant woman 24 yrs old, has a cough for almost 2 years and asthma, last month she was diagnose with acute to chronic pneumonia ,had a negative sputum exam for AFB, just had a premature delivery, but the baby die, fetal anomaly... now she's diagnosed with PTB.. pls help me with my concern on how to create a good structure / diagram form pathophysio.. thank u a million .:)
Daytonite, BSN, RN
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hi, beautydenia, and welcome to allnurses! :welcome:
here is a website where you can find a little about the pathophysiology of pulmonary tuberculosis and pneumonia:
the following is from textbooks that i have here at my home:
tuberculosis:
from nurse's 5-minute clinical consult: diseases by lippincott williams & wilkins, page 824, on the pathophysiology of tuberculosis:
from pathophysiology: the biologic basis for disease in adults and children, third edition, by kathryn l. mccance and sue e. heuther, page 1185, on the pathophysiology of tuberculosis:
pneumonia:
from nurse's 5-minute clinical consult: diseases by lippincott williams & wilkins, page 614, on the pathophysiology of pneumonia:
from pathophysiology: the biologic basis for disease in adults and children, third edition, by kathryn l. mccance and sue e. heuther, page 1183 on the pathophysiology of pneumonia:
THANK YOU so much Daytonite:),
For all the important informations that u have shared to me, for taking the time to impart ur knowledge and very kind enough to help an aspiring nurse someday. The information that u gave me will certainly improve the data in my case presentation. Thank u so much. .IT's really nice to have people share their knowledge to striving student nursing like me. More power., and again thank u
i have a question, what part of the PTB - Pneumonia pathophysio will the another medical diagnosis "UTI or Urinary tract infection "may fall into. where can i connect it?
PTB, pneumonia, and UTI are all infectious processes. The pathophysiology of an infectious process is pretty much the same except the area of the body involved might be different. It usually starts with the inflammation response and proceeds.
thank u again daytonite:specs:, base from the readings, i come up with diagram form pathophysio, kindly check if the pathophysio for pneumonia is correct, kindly make the appropriate corrections , revisions and please provide explanations in order for me to understand deeper..,then im going to connect it with PTB. thanks:)
----supposedly in Diagram form---
1. to start of infectious organisms entering the respi. system or inhalation of microorganism
2. infection occurs
3. immune reaction follows
4. under the infection and immune response inflammation process proceeded
5. the next thing that happens to inflammation process there will be vasonstriction
6. The release of chemical mediators
7. under the release of chemical mediators vasodilation and increase capillary permeability happens
8. for vasodilation, there will be increase blood pressure then formation of heat and redness to the site
9. under increase in capillary permeability swelling and pain emerges then leds to loss of tissue functions
10. after the release of chemical mediator , there will be an increase in local
capillary leaks
12. still under increase capillary leak , it will eventually lead to spread of infection to other areas of the lungs, two things may happen infection extends into the pleural cavity and organisms move to the bloodstream which causes systemic infection
13. on the other hand, still under increase in capillary leak, theres a decrease in fluid collected around the alveoli, then decrease alveolar-capillary perfusion , which significantly leads to increase spaces between the alveoli and capillary
which therefore decrease gas exchange --then hypoxemia---then hypoxia---that trigers compensatory mechanism form the different systems (respi, CNS, etc)
Under increase in capillary leak-----increased permeability of cell members allowing leukocytes and fibrin to consolidate in involved areas-----ones fibrin and leukocytes stiffen there will be a decrease in lung compliance and decrease lung vital capacity which decreases gas exchange that leads to hypoxemia---hypoxia.--then triggers the compensatory mechanism..
daytonite , kindly make corrections , comments and improve my pathophysio, thank u:):specs:
Pathophysio (PTB):
----supposedly in diagram form----
infective lung----multiplication of the bacilli occur---two things happen here 1st bacilli migrates or escape towards the lympathic system --lodge in the lymph nodes which it may encounter macrophages: if the immune system is compromised it will goes to the blood stream then to the systemic circulation.
2nd there might be lung inflammatory process that may lead to cell injury --immune response--then the inflammatory process happens (or) the lung inflammatory process leads to ----macrophage and neutrophils phagocytes the Bacilli : in case of IMMUNE COMPROMISE PATIENTS, it will proliferate , (a) bacilli are transported via the lymphatic system --goes to the blood stream--then to the systemic circulation or (b) Bacilli remains in the infective lung --which progresses to PTB into the airway and out into the environment , and this bacilli may also injured the tissues and cells which triggers inflammatory response
But if the patient is IMMUNE EFFECTIVE, it could either make the bacilli dormant or kill the bacilli.
Supposed the patient is immune effective in a dormant state: but some factors arises that suppresses the immune system like for instance pregnancy or prolong used of corticosteroid-- there will be reactivation of bacilli-- leading to ghon tubercle ulceration--then formation of cheesy materials with bacilli released into the bronchi---that causes Secondary PTB formation--then dissemination of mycobacterium into the lungs --then there will be tissue and cellular injury that may occur--what follow is the inflammatory process
In cases of immune effective client---with acquired cellular immunity , the bacilli is contained in the lungs ---then this Bacilli are destroy by the activated macrophages ---which localized the lesions (dissemination of organism via the lymphatic vessels is usually prevented)
Supposing a client is an immune effective client with dormant Bacilli (contained infection)--gets reinfection of another M. Bacilli cause by exogenous factors but with acquired cellular immunity --the bacilli are promptly destroyed by the activated macrophages then lesions remain localized-- it is not disseminated via the lymphatic system
another thing is if the client is immune effective in dormant stage-- with reinfection of M. Bacilli (due to exogenous factors)---there will be reactivation of bacilli-- then formation of ghon tubercle ulcerations-- formation of cheesy material with bacilli release into the bronchi---secondary PTB--then dissemination of M.Bacilli--into the lungs---then bacilli injured the tissues and cells--then leads to inflammatory process which could be connected to inflammation process of pneumonia
https://allnurses.com/forums/f50/histamine-effect-244836.html - the pathophysiology of the inflammatory response
pathophysiology of pneumonia with active tuberculosis
thank u so much daytonite, the presentation was well presented :) it
could have not done it with out your kind help .. again thank u so
much...more power:specs::specs::up:
You are welcome. I am more concerned that you understand the process of what you need to do in order to get to the information that you needed. This all involved critical thinking as well as knowing where to go to get the information that you needed.
I'm glad it went well for you. And, I hoped you learned a lot from it.