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quintiles
If you can get in at Quintiles, I'd recommend just starting there. Fantastic upward mobility (supposedly within 2 years, you can move to a clinical research associate position), and the training you'd get there is invaluable. Honestly, a lot of people (not all) who work ina hospital research position just end up coming to work at Quintiles, PRA International, etc only to work that entry level assistant position so why not just start off at the organazation if you have the chance to do so in the first place? just my 2 cents.
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Non-nursing jobs
Clinical research organizations like PRA International, Quintiles, Parexel, Convance, etc may hire new grads as entry level clinical research associates, but those positions are rare/few and far between and vary depending on your background in addition to your nursing degree. More than likely new grads start off as research/clinical trial assistants and move up to clinical research associate. The progression is rather quick, I've heard. Honestly, with a nursing + pharmacy tech background, you would be a great candiate for this. Healthcare IT organizations like Cerner, and Mckesson also hire new grads as entry level delivery consultants.
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Are jobs becoming more available
Care to share some of these tactics? I'm sure these unemployed new graduates would love to know where these readily available jobs are and how to get them.
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What kind of non-clinical jobs RN new grads are getting?
Clinical research organizations like PRA International, Quintiles, Parexel, Convance, etc may hire new grads as entry level clinical research associates, but those positions are rare/few and far between and vary depending on your background in addition to your nursing degree. More than likely new grads start off as research/clinical trial assistants and move up to clinical research associate. Healthcare IT organizations like Cerner, and Mckesson also hire new grads as entry level delivery consultants.
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Nurses eat their young - now I understand why.
I'm positive that it's not only young nurses that make bad interview mistakes....? If you find these new grads so challenging to interview, or in your words- "arrogant" and "privileged" , change the listing to "experience required". Simple solution.
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KCMO Hospitals, St Lukes
I'm a new grad and I'm actually interviewing for a position at St. Lukes this week. It took about 3 days after applying to get the call. I don't remember seeing any openings for NICU or L&D, but I do know that Liberty Hospital hires new grads and I do remember seeing an obstetrics opening. I know that you said that you wanted to stay on the MO side, but KU also has a Clinical nurse entry opening in the NICU last time I checked (last week).
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If you hate being a CNA will you hate being an RN too?
And why do you think that being a nurse would change any of that?
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Failed NCLEX 5 Times! Am I The Only One Who . . .
I don't understand what you mean by this. In order to get to those higher level questions, you must first pass basic level questions. If you kept getting basic level questions wrong, then you would ultimately fail. Getting a higher level question wrong, takes you back to a basic level question, and vice versa.
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Need advice on leaving current job
Do your best not to burn any more bridges. I know that some people might be of the opinion that they would have been angry no matter what how you gave your resignation but you just really never know. You might need them as a recommendation one day, you might want to come back, or you might need/want some PRN extra work w/them once in a while. Give your resignation in person.
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Ever wonder...
As I already posted, a general lack of communication was her problem. As well as her dismissive demeanor. And again, had she simply said, the pharmacy was working on it, there wouldn't have been a problem. Otherwise, one thinks that the patient is simply being forgotten about. "Dinged for leaving in a hurry"? Really? Last time I checked, it wasn't common practice to leave the room in the middle of conversation.
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Salary to expect as a new grad nurse
I can speak from very recent experience that finding employment as a new grad is, indeed, tough. For me, getting interviews wasn't the hard part. The hard part was beating out the other 5-7 people also interviewing for the position. My sincere well wishes to all the new grads still looking. Just got hired on in a Rehab center in MO. Will be making $26/hr for day shift.
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Anyone familiar with MU's Accelerated BSN Program?
PROS: The program is extremely diverse. My class had so many different personalities and I loved getting to interact with them. Reputation. Having the Sinclair School of Nursing on your resume helps. Great clinical instructors. Great clinical sites. I'm sure I'm missing more, but if you get the chance to attend, I'd say to definitely do so without hesitation. CONS: Honestly the only con I can think of how intense the program can be. The longest break you will get is 3-4 weeks of Christmas vacation, and believe me when I say to savor every moment of it. I was taking pre-reqs up until last May and started the program 2 weeks later. Like any accelerated program, it can be very draining emotionally, and physically. I wish you luck on your interview! It's a fabulous program with a great reputation.
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What do I do after my clinical instructor told me I will never be a good nurse?
Simply put- use it as fuel, and prove her wrong. It's amazing the things you can accomplish in the face of adversity. I have a previous degree, and was told this in gentler words in my first semester ever in college. I never forgot what she said. By the time I graduated, I was at the top of my class, all the other instructors loved me, and I had essentially made a name for myself in the program for various accomplishments. I kid you not, on the last day of attending college there, I ran into the same teacher and she told me how proud she was of me, and gave me a hug. It was like something out of a movie, but it was most appreciated.
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Ever wonder...
It was already an hour and 1/2 late, and a simple, "I ordered it, and pharmacy should have it up asap" OR any communication at all would have been nice. But the "eyeroll'' emoticon was a nice touch.
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Ever wonder...
It wasn't. It was pharmacy calling her to tell her that his antibiotic was ready, hence it being "oh perfect!". Regardless, if that were the case, a quick, "I apologize but there is an emergency in the next room" would have sufficed. My father was a RN (she knew this) and he would have understood.
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Ever wonder...
YES. My father was in the hospital a couple of months ago. I'm not a fan of this hospital in the first place, but he insists on going there for his doctor. He called the nurse, she came in, and he asked for his antibiotic. As he's explaining why it was imperative for him to get this antibiotic on time, her phone rings, she says, "Oh perfect!" and she bolts out the door when my father is in mid-sentence. When she comes back with the antibiotic, my father is upset that he was essentially blown off. When he lets her know this, she says, "Hey...I'm not going to argue with you, man". I was absolutely blown away by her demeanor.
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Discrimination, discrimination.. Tell me what you think.
While this may be true in the hospital you work, I think that claiming that discrimination in the hospital setting is "rare" is a gross generalization. Unless you are hiring people all all around the world, how would you know? Fyi, I can't tell if the OP experienced discrimination or not, I just don't think that it's "rare". It definitely happens.
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Arrested while Occupying Wall Street - Will I Be Hireable?
I agree. Not to mention passing the background check for boards, and getting employment. Honestly, I really don't know how such an arrest would be perceived, but I'd say that the peace of mind of not having to worry about a not so clean record, would trump everything in the long run. Show your support in spirit.
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Second Degree BSN--afraid past will haunt me
For the accelerated program I attended, you had to have at least a 2.8 overall undergrad GPA to be considered. I've seen 3.0 for other ABSN programs. Nursing courses would not be considered in this GPA, as presumably, you would not have taken any nursing courses. Prerequisites for the program (chem, micro, anatomy, phys, etc) would be considered separate from this GPA, but they wouldn't even look at this GPA unless you had an overall 2.8 in your previous degree. I would contact the schools you are interested and in and clarify with them. I would almost suggest going through an ADN program, and then bridging to a RN-BSN program.
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The reverse end of "my preceptor hates me"
I agree with this. Problem solved.
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Willing to come to snow new grads there are jobs here.
You're in KS?I live in KC and applied for a local residency program. I was told 20 people were interviewing for one position. "Hiring 14 new grads" sounds great on paper, but not so much when there are literally hundreds of new grads applying for these jobs.
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shorter time, bigger debt...smaller debt, longer time
Go straight for the BSN. In the current job market, you have to look as competitive as possible, and that would be the person with the higher degree and the most certifications.
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Working with student nurses
Same. When I did my internship, nurses on my floor regularly encouraged interns to delegate to the techs (I was even told one time to, "no offense, stop acting like a tech"). As a senior student, you know the difference between proper delegation, and telling the techs to do something just because you don't feel like doing it yourself. The latter wouldn't reflect well on you as a student nurse. But yes, there were times when delegating to the tech was necessary. They're doing things they would normally do for a patient, had the nurse asked them. I didn't get much push back but I can recall how awkward it was when I was told to to delegate to the tech (a classmate of mine in my ABSN program who had worked as a tech on the unit on the weekends) to change the sheets on one of my patient's beds. She wasn't too happy (maybe slightly embarrassed, as I was a fellow student), but I would offer to help her and any of the other techs with patients whenever I had spare time.
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Truman Medical Center Nursing Residency Program
Have you tried University Hospital in Columbia, MO? I graduated there, and decided to move back to KC based on personal preference, but everyone in my class who stayed in Columbia found employment there. They seem to be very generous with hiring new grads. I've heard the same thing about SSM in St. Louis. If you're pretty open about what you want to do in healthcare, and you have your BSN, you could try Cerner in KC. I interviewed there a couple days ago about a delivery consultant position. The interviewers really drove home the fact that they were really looking for clinicians (recently graduated or not). Experience wasn't an issue. Honestly, it was nice to hear that, considering everyone else wants experienced nurses only, it seems. But having read your post, it seems like you're in a really great position. Good luck to you and hope that this helps.
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Truman Medical Center Nursing Residency Program
Congrats to you. Hopefully it went well. I had a phone interview before the residency deadline (which was surprising) but I haven't heard anything as of yet. I was told that onsite interviews were to begin "the last 2 weeks of October" so I'm not feeling great about my position right now. I applied to all of the openings except for ER, so maybe I lost points for not picking a speciality lol.