Tyler77

Yeah, right. Everyone gets A's. My grades?--None of your business.

Actual patient care comes first on a hospital floor? Really? With all the texting, eye-rolling, and gossip that nurses do on the floor, I'm surprised they have TIME to take care of patients! Isn't that what the indentured serva...oh I meant PCT's are for? Nurses that don't get paid extra for helping educate student nurses? If they were paid for what they actually do, they'd be making BELOW minimum wage...And the cycle continues. Nursing is all about being in a "grown up" clique. It's all drama like the nursing students. The "I've been here longer, so therefore I outrank you" nonsense. Why is it that nurses whine when they have (horrors!) 6 patients? Didn't they know this BEFORE getting the job? If the student doesn't WANT to learn or is too engrossed in their I-phone, tell their instructor what you've observed and let them deal with it. It also has to do with the "nursing student entitlement"--they'll be singing a different tune oncwe they get out there in their "real" nursing job and are shunned by their co-workers. It's called karma.

If you got along great witht the instructors, then good for you. There'ss ome instructors there that I've just wanted to ask "If you're so miserable and unreceptive to students, why are you in what's called a "caring" profession? Clinical instructors that bully, complaints that fall on deaf ears, and staff that really just sit around and don't do anything. Some lectures are now "banished" to the other part of campus because the insanity of 90+ students yapping away in the hallway, texting, and gossiping was just too much for other teachers in the building. If you're in the program, the Spring class (122) is NOTORIOUS for it's drop-out rate. Exams, well, I'm not even going there. You've been warned.

If a student is dreading the fact even GOING to class, there's a lot to be said. If they've made their decision that nursing school isn't for them, just let them be...Telling them to "tough it out" is only going to worsen what they're going through. Cut your losses!!! You can leave without regretting it! I 've gone to classes with nursing students that DON'T even have a rudimentary grasp of the English language, or can hardly do math. Cheaters, whiners, those that are going into nursing for the money are now commonplace. If you're not happy, get out. NOW.

A lot of female nursing students are going through what you go. It's the same routine: boyfriend tells girlfriend that "he'll always be there for her", get her pregnant, and RUNS when he finds out she's expecting. The result is another new single mom with th "Woe is me" attitude that should've known better. They complain that they can't get child care, that they're late to clinicals because the abaysitter was late, yadda, yadda, yadda. What they fail to realize is that students don't care about the single mom's personal issues. It takes two to make a baby. You need to visit your anger on your "ex". See what happens when you need to experience the few moments of passion?

Yippee! Hooray! Wait until a few weeks until you realize what it's "really" like out there! Oh joy!

Is this thread for real? Why do people choose medicine? Answer: Money! Let's not start with the "holisitc" approach or "I can give better care to patients at the bedside." Puh-leez. Go sell that to someone lese. Students that "choose" that applied to medical school made that decision because they were turned down. Period. And they can spend the rest of their careers being "miserable"--oops sorry--I meant "providing care" for their patients. Yeah, and my gpa is 5.35. Better than yours. Nya nya nya, ha ha ha...

If you're 30 and have 5 kids, I hope their father is in the picture, or you're married to him!! Seems like every female that was under 25 in my class that had kids either a) had NO contact with her kids fathers or b) chalked up their kid as a "mistake." Seriously, people going intoa profession to help others needs to get their priorities straight before having a gaggle of kids.

An A- is unacceptable. Re-take the class and pray you get an A+.

What you describe goes on in every program--the cattiness, drama, etc. Don't give them ammo. If another student asks you a personal question, be vague with your answer so they can't make any dumb conclusions based on what you said. That being said, if anyone is so evil as to accuse of doing something that is vile and untrue, I would pursue legal action against them. maybe that should shut them up. Manepride, you've also opened the can of proverbial worms yourself: stop joking, being sarcastic, or making funny comments that have a hint of innuendo. That being said, you're in a program that has students that really haven't experienced LIFE as it is and are mostly dealing with students that think that texting, showing up to class whenever they feel like, and basically acting like they're in High School. That's the way it is. The real world (lack of job prospects, the *Evil* supervisor) will bite them when the time comes. Just "Lay low" and finish your program. You won't have to deal with these creeps much longer. And stay off of Facebook, and don't freely give out your cell number or e-mail.

Just say to yourself: "I will not be a drama queen in class." "I will come to class on time." "I will not text during clinicals." "I will not gossip/backstab/make up stories abou other people." "I will not reveal 'cute' stories about myself in nursing class about how everyone in my family is a doctor and they have a job lined up for me because no one wants to hear them."

Breezy7, Wait till you go out there in the real world and deal with misearable, bitter, catty nurses. You can't walk to HR and ask "Can I have a transfer out of Nurse Smith's Dept. She's mean!" Good luck, kiddo. Welcome to the real world.

Just lovin' this: although what I did was a violation, i don't think that what I did was wrong. Not like I was cheating." This "oh blame someone or soemthing else" attitude is soooo rampant these days, especially in nursing school, that no one can ever take personal responsibility for their actions. Time to man up, realize that what you did was WRONG (because you do have to sign a statement that pretty much sums up what you can AND can't do during the NCLEX), and stop looking for the easy way out. Everyone is so sue-happy and "you hurt my feelings" that there is no persoanl acountability. What you did is not getting blown out of proportion--what you did is WRONG. Period. Let's say that one of your loved ones was supposed to be given a .05 mg of a drug that has a side eefect of slowing down the central nervous system. A nurse gives the 5 mg, causing them death. The nurse says "I didn't mean to kill them, like, the decimal was over by 2 places. Get over it." What would YOUR reaction be?

OK I had a 2.4. I'm white, no kids, not in any need of financial assistance. I'm not catty ("Oh did you see the shoes she was wearing!!). My dad is not a doctor, my mother will probabbly never be "mother of the year", I don't "give it up" if a guy notices me. I take responsibility for my own grades: if I flunk an exam, it was all my doing. Not the teacher's fault, not the Chatty Cathy's that sit behind me in class. If I'm assigned a "difficult" patient, I don't place blame on my instructor, accusing him/her not "liking" me. No, I don't friend people on Facebook so I can keep track of all the parties and shopping excursions they go on. I won't give anyone my cell phone number just to have them text me at 4a.m. to ask what I'm doing. Hey, if I do poorly in a class, it's MY fault. Not the "undiagnosed ADHD please feel sorry or me" excuse. No the "OMG I'm having so many problems" excuse. It's called life, and everyone needs to start taking responsibility for their own actions. That's part of the reason that if you have a group of female nurses, it turns into a gossip-fest, with catty, backstabbing behavior. If something goes wrong, TAKE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILTY. It's not the patient's fault, not their annoying family, not the CNA's. Yours.

I only have experience with MCC, and the negative attitude and "holier than thou" attitude among the nursing staff is unbearable. Unless it's due to personal reasons, nearly EVERYONE passes the first core nursing course (Fundamentals). In the spring, the second core nursing course is the "weeding out" course--more than 40% of students fail out. This course is "team taught" by different instructors in the department, and they "pool" their respective questions onto exams. Most of the time, a blind guess will give you a chance to score the question correctly. They'll lay the "Oh we're preparing you for the NCLEX" spiel, and it wears thin. I don't know if the policy has changed, but to essentially pass the nursing program, you have to pass one FINAL "mock" test. Seriously. It's true, the competiton to get into the program is insane. But after 2 years with your fellow students, you have to wonder how some of them got into the program. Connections, probably. It's known that the "attitude problem" of the students is just as bad as the faculty. And the adjunct clinical instructors--well, I won't even go there. More times than not, they don't come back after a semester. The nursing program at MCC is the former staff at the closed Charles E. Gregory School. They really haven't warmed up to the atmosphere of the college, and they live in their own world. Some instructors can be lovely, others you pray you're not stuck with.

You have ADD and decided that you want to take an ACCELERATED program that requires MORE attention? Something doesn't wash here. Otherwise, welcome to life. Everyone has the "It wasn't my fault" excuse once they're thrown out of a program: it was the teacher's fault, they had it in for me because (insert dumb excuse here), the clinical site was bad, the exams were unfair, etc. Welcome to the elite group of dismissed nursing students: you can have a notarized statement from the President of the Unites States saying your dismissal was unfair, and you still won't get back in. It's also called LIFE. Get used to it. Things won't go your way all the time. Look into for profit school that have nursing programs. They usually give the second chance to students looking for another opportunity. But it won't be cheap.

Just more evidence on why one SHOULD NOT become a nurse. A clinical instructor (or class instructor) that is petty, backstabbing, placing accusations on others is just a mirror of what's going on out there in the "real world." I still don't understand why everyone is in line trying to become a nurse.

If you're having problems in Fundamentals, you are in a bad situation. In my school, if you had a pulse you could pass Fundamentals (the school does it to "lure" you into the Med-Surg, so you can pay your tuition, and then fail out of that course). If you're going into Med Surg next semester, that's the "weeding out" course. All the NCLEX books, study guides, review sessions won't do anything for you if you can't grasp the material. Interesting that in that course, all the backstabbing, drama, and "Oh it's not my fault" reach a fever pitch. Good luck!

Another example of "Not my fault" syndrome. You were told that you had to make a speech. In advance. If you thought it was "vague", why couldn't you clarify the iffy points with the instructor. And, it may be a "filler" class, but I can attest that there's nurses out there who can't speak a coherent sentence, so that's why the "filler" class is needed. Becuae YOu thought the instructions were vsgue, you thought, "Aw, heck, I'll show him. I'll just do a speech off the top of my head." Now you understand why you got the grade given?

For all the nursing classes, you're going to be in a huge lecture hall with 80+ students that are either: annoying, drama queens, texting, socializing, etc. The teachers really don't do anything about this. I was in the second year of the program when it moved to MCC, and NRB 122 was a complete disaster. The course was taught by different teachers in the faculty, and they "pooled" all of their questions into the exams, leaving you mystified as to where some of the questions came from. Needless to say, 40% of the class failed and could not proceed with the course sequence. The instructors are still employees of Raritan Bay, and not really the college, so they have a stand-off-ish attitude when a student presents a complaint or concern. Make sure you don't have an adjunct clinical instructor--I have no idea how some of them made it through the interview process, as they tend to be sub-par. For some reason, the cattiness and the backstabbing that I experienced was really out of line--instructors even yelled at us when we rolled our eyes when a student would ask, really, a dumb question. But it's what you make of it. There are definitely better programs out there, I'd say MCC is middle of the pack. But with the HUNDREDS (approaching the 1000 mark) of applicants for only a few spots, they're not going out of business any time soon. Don't think you'll be paying county college tuition, you'll be paying Raritan Bay Medical Center tuition, whatever that is--which amounts to over $5000 just for one nursing course. And they can still get away with it.

Mosrt likely to get slapped by a patient. Most likely to get divorced due to her "winning" attitude. Most likely to be gossiped about. Most likely to text during med-pass. Most likely to get fired on the first day of her job. Most likely to to say they "love" nursing, but they secretly hate everything about it. Most likely to be three-faced. Most likely to just another long, drawn out story of some family member with an extremely rare disease, and how they overcame it. Most likely to get pregnant by a patient. Most likely to say "Oh we did it THIS WAY in skills lab." Most likely to roll her eyes for the umpteenth time--and they will FINALLY get stuck. Most likely to show up to work in her Baby Phat scrubs, Prada purse, brand new nail wraps and complain they don't have any money. Most likely to call out when the "mean old nurse" is sscheduled to work with her. Most likely to look through patient's files and go "Ewwwwwww" on the floor. Most likely to to screw up a med pass involving aspirin and a cup of water. Most likely to say "I ain't goin' in that patient's room--it stinks in there." Most likely to gush on and on about how she is on an exercise plan, eating healthy, losing weight--and tell you all this right after her umpteenth cigarette break. Most likely to brag about her wonderful family, but her husband sleeps on the couch and her kids are suspended for the hundreth time.

I would have your anxiety order and depression under serious control before you go out there and become a nurse. P.S. There will ALWAYS be someone out there who challenges you, corrects you and may not like you. Welcome to life.

File a grievance with your Dean of Student Affairs (or Dean of Students). Make copies of supporting documents when you submit them. Once it crosses the chairperson's desk, they will be pretty much FORCED to speak with you, regardless of who's on vacation or who spread what rumor. That'll get 'em, but it won't guarantee re-admittance into the program.

Why is it that everyone in danger of failing a class seeks to use a "loophole" or "the balme game" when YOUR GRADES are YOUR responsibility. You know, I got a 90 on an exam once, and I have ulcerative colitis. I think I'll use that as an excuse as to not doing better. maybe if I see the teacher, she'll boost my grade because of this....or once I took an exam on a rainy day, and rainy days give me "brain freeze"--maybe I could get some more points added to my exam because of that. Your post, olliefos, describes LIFE. Stuff happens that is beyond your control. For every 1 nursing student that I've seen take (gasp!) PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for their academic work, I can give you 50, that will blame anyone and anything if they're not happy with a grade received. How about putting the cell phone, focus on studying, and kwitcerbitchin'.

Today in class some student was going on about her stellar GPA, her "job" she has planned out, her four adorable kids, her patients that love her, the nurses that she's corrected, and I told her to zip it.