Marvie

I did not recall anywhere in the original post where it stated this 'celebrity' gave consent, there is no guarentee that this said photo does not have someone in the background whose privacy it may violate, would you as an RN take a photo of every patient (celebrity or not?) If not- then you are definitly being preferential and that is not a good thing...final decision is it is unprofessional at best and does take advantage of a person during a vulnerable time celebrity or not.

It NOT legal! Period! The unliscenced people present pose a risk to patient safety.

And...What is wrong with that? Nothing at all!

That is Omission and still wrong, Never lie to any patient no matter what and never purposly withold info.

Unless that nurse had expressed consent by that patient, the photo was a violation of the person's privacy, along with meeting the same patient in the ER (even if she was off the clock) was also inappropriate (How did she know the person was in the ER??) Unless she was directly caring for the person at that time, it was not right for her to do so. Legality will always win if it ever goes to court, just saying.

Yes the state I am in requires a certification in order to pass surgical instruments. If a person is not an RN they are a CST (certified scrub tech) It is a patient liability issue not a student nursing issue. I am not discouraging just surprised that a patient would be exposed to a potential danger-usually the patient MUST sign a student waver in case something were to happen. Students are not liscenced to do anything other than observe, that is why they are students and not certified RN's yet! Anything that a student does (wrong or not) is under the liscence of the RN or the Doctor and they will be held accountable IF (and that is an IF) anything were to happen. And No a surgeon cannot legally pull anyone off the street and have them scrub...there are hospital policies that require certification for people to even be in the OR.

I too went from nursing school to the OR however, the hospital I worked at also required a rotation in other areas prior to being soley in the OR. I did ER, PACU, NICU, ICU, Gen floor, and cardiology...I feel those rotations did help me.

The chagrin of the physicians is understandable...Legally a nursing student should only be in the OR to observe NOT to scrub in and hand instruments...The patients have the right to not have underqualified personnel working on them..I question the legality of you engaging in these surgeries and as an OR RN I would never allow a nursing student to be placed in that position of possible liability!

Oh, the question regarding the nurse behaviour...It is not unprofessional to not speak but it is discurtious...How do you know that the nurse isnt trying to not disrupt the patients rest? has a sore throat? Is deaf or has speaking problems, has a lot on her mind? blah blah blah the list can go on and on...You dont have to talk to your patients but it is curtious to do so.

Reading the questions and answers, I got them all correct according to what I know as an RN and what your instructor claims is the most correct answer. I would have to ask you if maybe you are analyzing your answers too much when deciding what is correct? Nuring isn't just about what is correct, it is also about jugement and how this jugment applys to your patient. I am thinking that you are not getting the answers due to over analysis...Keep studying, breath...(it's ok), and learn from mistakes Hugs to you!

UHmmmmm.........WHAT? That is NOT something I have EVER seen...I think that could classify as patient abandonment. You were a student? alone ? in the OR with a patient under anesthesia? and no one else???

I will NEVER EAT AGAIN....Blechhhhhhhh:uhoh3::sstrs:

*GASP*...............(sucking air into lungs)......I think I hurt myself from laughing!!!!!!:loveya:

I am inactive right now because I was told by my former employer that I would not have any accomodations granted to me (I used to work in the OR with profound hearing loss) but one day very suddenly I lost the rest of my hearing (which was very little to begin with). I also was seen by several docs and the neurologist discovered that I had some distressing neurological issues. I am ataxic and deaf, and have visual issues and have imbalance and dizziness. So, none of this was my choice and I really wish I could work again but obviously this would be a strain on me physically, not to mention how other's would negativly perceive me. I have always been a very safe RN and never had my hearing loss interferred with any of my nursing (except the telephone) but alas....I am now not physically able to do the things I used to. :aln: an RN to the end!

KatrinaAnne- Yes I would love a chance to chat with you.

I am a Deaf RN, the term 'hearing impaired" is offensive. I suggest reading the ADA and checking the school's requirements on student instruction, perhaps talking with a counselor at the school.

well, let's see....don't be like me and have a genetic condition that steals your hearing away and disintegrates you with cerebellar ataxia, yeah because that is why my boss "let me go" even though I never put anyone in any harms way or ever had a complaint....so the answer to that is be genetically perfect and never have any disabilities because you won't be a 'perfect' nurse...

I believe that it would be a yes however, information that might be clinical important such as I/O needs to be accuratly recorded if not by them then by a supervising RN.

Ditto here, im a deaf RN (level below 120 dec straight across) and If I can be an RN, then so can anyone...Im here also if you need additional support.

I would suggest that you check with the accredidation of that private school. If they receive ANY funding from the government, then they are required by ADA law to accomodate your reasonable requests. You might consider speaking with a lawyer who knows the ADA law and see what they should be doing and what they are not required to do...it's a start, and good luck to you.

I can think of a few that have perterbed me once or twice...How about when you have cases all day and find out in the middle of the day the next patient is severly allergic to any latex? why is this in the middle of the day before and after non-latex allergic cases? And another one...after restocking rooms that have come down for the day having a coworker run in and grab supplies from the stocked room instead of going into the area with all the supplies? This person's answer? "But I can't find it...I didn't know where it was...." blah,blah,blah...if your'e there after the trial period, then one should at least make an effort to go and look to see where things are so you can find it or know we even have something instead of grabbing out of a room (especially if there's a case going on in that room). Arrrggg

They did surgery to prevent her body from going septic and possibly into shock then dying...that's why. And do you honestly believe that anyone can be comfortable with eight gangreneous toes? I think NOT!

Well, truth be told I have been an OR nurse for going on 9 years and I have progressive bilateral profound deafness and I am one of THE MOST sought RN in the OR. If someone has a problem or question, I am the one they come to...So truth be told it is a shame that you would doubt that a deaf nurse could work in the or "unless there is a dire need". I find that part of the problems I run into is attitudes from other nurses.....like yours. So you might want to rethink your stance on deaf nurses in the OR.....:grn:

I had an exceptionally long case one time...I had been at work at 6 AM until 3 pm then an emergency case came in and since I was the "on call" person I got to enjoy the surgery. It was a knee scope that ended up with a ruptured popliteal artery and a ton of blood loss, it was the messiest, most exhausting case ever. It ended at 545 am the following morning, and I was expected to do my shift that day. Then to top if off- my NM says to me that I "forgot" to clock out the day before...No, I explained, I was there all night. She didn't believe me until she spoke to the doctor. Yeah that was just a nightmare.

Well I have been an OR nurse for many years with profound deafness and I have not had any problems with surgeons or co-workers. I say congrats to the nurse who has a hearing limitation who wants to work in the OR. There are prototypes of clear face masks being tested right now and this isnt just for hearing loss, it's for the benefit of the patients...I hope to see more places using them in the very near future.