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Not sure where you are located but our BSN program requires as prereq's English, Statistics, A&P I and II , Microbiology, Speech, Nutrition for nurses, basic Psychology and Developmental all this needs to be done in most cases befor you can even get in the program then is is 4 semesters of nursing classes ...... on many of those classes you have to take lower classes to get into them like have to have advanced algebra before stats so depending on what you took in high school as to what you can get into. Now in my case being out of school for 20++ years I had to take 2 math classes before STats and a biology class before A&P. Good luck and CC stands for community college. You should apply to any program ASAP and get on the list many schools have 5-6 year waiting list. Do a search and you will find many threads on this subject

I would say anytime sympathetic kicks in then the para kicks in to counter act this. The body has to calm down can't stay in this state what would that do to the heart,resp system etc. So I feel there would be things in both columns

My daughter suffers from migraines she had 30-60 a month. She goes to Diamond Headache clinic in Chicago it took 5 years and many many many combinations of drugs to get the headaches under control. Best advice find a doctor who Number one believes in your pain and wants to be AGGRESSIVE in the treatment. YOU need to research go to the Diamond headache web page follow links there try the national headache foundation. and BE LOUD AND VOCAL WITH YOU DOCTOR ABOUT YOU HEADACHE AND PAIN many doctors only treat migraines like you have a mental problem. They think of you like Darin Stevens mom on Bewitched you have a "sick headache" because of a little stress. You can also go to Yahoo groups there are many support groups out there online Please feel free to PM me and I will help you all I can I have spent hours and hours of research on this and after 5-6 different doctors telling me my 13 yo daughter was a spoiled overweight child who didn't want to go to school I found doctors who believed her and finally helped her... KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!!!!!!

I worked hospice as an aide for a long time and I saw many many clients screamining in pain. It is the most horrifing thing I have ever witnessed. Doctor refuses more pain medication becasue it could kill patient. NO ONE DESERVES TO SUFFER THAT WAY. I don't believe in killing them with a lethal dose of something just because they are dying but ease their pain. Most have suffered so long with chemo and surgeries ect that they deserve to die as pain free as possible. Sorry will get off my soap box touchy touchy subject with me

I think what someone said earlier about maybe no medical benefit but if the mother/father feels this helps with the bonding of the child let it be. I worked at a protrait studio in a large chain store (begins with a W guess which one?) and I had people leave the hospital and bring that 2 day old newborn in and have pictures taken. Now mind you this is in the middle of flu season and I had coughing spitting kids all over the place and these parents are like oh well it will make the baby stronger. Guess what I see dad 2 days later at the hospital (where I am doing clinicals) and the baby is sick and later had to be transfered by helicopter to a NICU. Two weeks later read the babies obit in the paper. I really felt bad for those parents but I did all I could do at the studio to help with the germs. So the reason I got into this long story is if you do this lotus thing at least you stay HOME with the baby instead of taking them out into the world. I am really sorry that CMN got offended I think if this was a bonding experiance for her and her children good for her and I applaud her for taking the road less traveled I would never do this but I never even breastfed my kids so ....

You were able to take you NCLEX test, how did you list this for that? They are really tough in most states on this and if you were able to do this then maybe it is not on your record anymore. Go to you local police station and get this run you might have to pay for it but see what is on it. Hope this helps

We talked about this in one of my classes. We had two students who were very much against abortions and said they would refuse to care for someone with complications from this. Our director contacted the board of nursing and they said refusing to care for a patient or not giving the ordered treatment (as long as it does not put the patient in danger) is a way to lose your license. They also said that you can have crimminal charges filed against you, and open yourself up to lawsuits galore. I would try to help a fellow nurse that was uncomfortable with treatment or order because of religious or moral beliefs, but many times TIME would be a big factor. Maybe as other posters said you should try to work in an area where this is a very rare occurance for you to encounter. I don't agree with your beliefs but I would never say that they were wrong. Hope I at least gave you some food for thought

Good luck, and come here anytime and vent! My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family!!

Yeah I mentioned mucomyst I was a Rt and that is what came to mind but this was an elderly lady, no OD or respiratory problems so we eliminated that one. She said that just wasn't the name she thought. Thanks for the link

Hey a question about a med. I am talking to a friend on the phone that is working as an aide waiting to get her papers to test. Last night the LPN she was working with brought a liquid medication in the room, and told her to smell it, it smelled terrible (worse than rotten eggs). The patient had c/o nausea and she wondered if it was for that. She didn't write down the name and after a terrible night forgot the name, she thinks it starts with a c. Any ideas as to what this could be, it is driving her crazy trying to remember it. I told her that all the great nurses here (and the hundreds of years of combined experiance ) could probably come up with it. Thanks guys

My CC until this year had the "recognition ceremony" in a church, our school had no place big enough to have it until this year (we added a new building) and our class was the first to use the auditorium. We wore white outfits (pants, skirts whatever) and we even gave everyone 30 bucks to buy them from the money we earned. We chose the singer, songs music and what kind of reception to have. The school only dictated that we have white uniforms and if you wanted a cap it had to have the school colors for the stripes. They also required us to have the Nurses Prayer and we recieved lamps and recited this in unison. We had one guy who just stood there and did not recite the prayer because he doesn't believe in prayer. It was nice! Rachel I think it is wonderful that you are fighting for your class but decide what the biggest issue is the church or the dresses, that way you guys can concide on one issue and win on another. Hope all works out for you and your class

The testing centers won't even talk to you until you have your ATT, they test every weekday but only have so many slots available. Many other types of test are taken there besides NCLEX, insurance, real estate etc so only so at times you may have to wait up to 3 weeks if your area has alot of gradutates of not only nursing school but many other types too!! I went to the Pearson web site and got some of that info and our Director told us allot of it too. Our program went over all that with us when they had us to start on the paper work so I am sure yours will too!!

Brandy It may not look full time on paper but it is with study time, my school says 2 hours per credit hour for non-nursing classes our instructors told us 3-4 hours per credit hours and then 4-6 per clinical day once you start careplans. Some students took 8 hours once they got the patient information to do a care plan, others only took 2-4. The amount of reading is one of the biggest issures. See a thread in the student nursing forum about this. I estimated that I spent about 60-72 hours a week between classroom, clinical, study and drive time (aprox 1 hour roundtrip) Good luck and it can be done!!!

I used one large binder for all my classes, that way I had all my material with me and if I had extra time I could study. Sometimes the material from one class overlaps with another and having another piece of material helps me if I am not quite getting that concept. It is also a good way to never forget or grab the wrong notebook or binder. I used loose leaf paper in each section to take extra notes but I am a big writer in my books and highlight highlight!!!!

My pinning and recognition ceremony was on December 17th at 6 pm. We used the brand new school auditorium (first group to use it) and it was very nice. We had 3 speakers and we were pinned by one of the instructors (Med/surg that we had this last (3rd) semester. Our lamps were handed out by another teacher that my class had for 2 semseters and she was very emotional. We all lit our lamps and said a nurses prayer. We had a singer who sang songs we selected and had a reception afterwards that we did fund raisers to pay for. We can participate in the graduation in May with caps and gowns if we want. My school does really well for the LPN class since that is all the graduates in December the ADN only graduates in May and there will be another LPN class then too.. All our instructors were there except one who had a family emergency. My father commented that they all looked very proud and that one of them told him that they are happy for us and yet sad that we are leaving! So sorry that meany of you do not get anything we work so hard for this and the cermony and recogniton just renforces your sense of pride BUT even if you dont' get any ceremony you still NEED TO STAND TALL AND BE PROUD of you accomplishment because those of us on this site know how hard you worked and I am sure they will join me in applauding you (clap clap clap) :)

YOU CAN DO IT!!!! just keep chanting that all the way there and before you start the test say that to yourself!!!! We have been told that many people flunk that first time and alot of it is the computerized test format and anxiety. You know what to expect now and can do it.... Rhonda

Graduate on December 17th !!!! Took last test today, won't know if actually passed until Thursday but I have calculated and unless I got under 42 on this test I have passed Congrats to all of you Graduating !!!!!!:balloons:

I have 6 more test to take and will be taking them up until the 16th and graduation is the 17th You guys are lucky that are finished just piling on the stress at this late date is fun fun fun

Very funny and in many ways sick but great anyway!!!

Why Women Take So Long in the Bathroom Only a woman will TRULY relate to the following, but it's fun for all! My mother was a fanatic about public toilets. As a little girl, she'd bring me in the stall, teach me to wad up toilet paper and wipe the seat. Then, she'd carefully lay strips of toilet paper to cover the seat. Finally, she'd instruct, "Never, never sit on a public toilet seat. And she'd demonstrate "The Stance," which consisted of balancing over the toilet in a sitting position without actually letting any of your flesh make contact with the Toilet seat. But by this time, I'd have wet down my leg and we'd go home. That was a long time ago. Even now in our more mature years, The Stance is excruciatingly difficult to maintain when one's bladder is especially full. When you have to "go" in a public bathroom, you find a line of women that makes you think there's a half-price sale on Nelly's underwear in there. So, you wait and smile politely at all the other ladies, also crossing their legs and smiling politely. And you finally get closer. You check for feet under the stall doors. Every one is occupied. Finally, a stall door opens and you dash, nearly knocking down the woman leaving the stall. You get in to find the door won't latch. It doesn't matter. You hang your purse on the door hook, yank down your pants and assume "The Stance." Relief. More relief. Then your thighs begin to shake. You'd love to sit down but you certainly hadn't taken time to wipe the seat or lay toilet paper on it, so you hold The Stance as your thighs experience a quake that would register an eight on the Richter scale. To take your mind off it, you reach for the toilet paper. The toilet paper dispenser is empty. Your thighs shake more. You remember the tiny tissue that you blew your nose on-that's in your purse. It would have to do. You crumble it in the puffiest way possible. It is still smaller than your thumbnail. Someone pushes open your stall door because the latch doesn't work and your purse whams you in the head. "Occupied!" you scream as you reach out for the door, dropping your tissue in a puddle and falling backward, directly onto the toilet seat. You get up quickly, but it's too late. Your bare bottom has made contact with all the germs and life forms on the bare seat because you never laid down toilet paper, not that there was any, even if you had enough time to. And your mother would be utterly ashamed of you if she knew, because her bare bottom never touched a public toilet seat because, frankly, "You don't know what kind of diseases you could get." And by this time, the automatic sensor on the back of the toilet is so confused that it flushes, sending up a stream of water akin to a fountain and then it suddenly sucks everything down with such force that you grab onto the toilet paper dispenser for fear of being dragged to China. At that point, you give up. You're soaked by the splashing water. You're exhausted. You try to wipe with a Chicklet wrapper you found in your pocket, then slink out inconspicuously to the sinks. You can't figure out how to operate the sinks with the automatic sensors, so you wipe your hands with spit and a dry paper towel and walk past a line of women, still waiting, cross-legged and unable to smile politely at this point. One kind soul at the very end of the line points out that you are trailing a piece of toilet paper on your shoe as long as the Mississippi River! You yank the paper from your shoe, plunk it the woman's hand and say warmly, "Here. You might need this." At this time, you see your man, who has entered, used and exited his bathroom and read a copy of War and Peace while waiting for you. "What took you so long?" he asks, annoyed... This is when you kick him sharply in the shin and go home. This is dedicated to all women everywhere who have ever had to deal with a public toilet. And it finally explains to all you men what takes us so long. PS - The answer to the other question, why do women go in pairs. It's so the other woman can hold the door and hand you Kleenex.

Why Women Take So Long in the Bathroom Only a woman will TRULY relate to the following, but it's fun for all! My mother was a fanatic about public toilets. As a little girl, she'd bring me in the stall, teach me to wad up toilet paper and wipe the seat. Then, she'd carefully lay strips of toilet paper to cover the seat. Finally, she'd instruct, "Never, never sit on a public toilet seat. And she'd demonstrate "The Stance," which consisted of balancing over the toilet in a sitting position without actually letting any of your flesh make contact with the Toilet seat. But by this time, I'd have wet down my leg and we'd go home. That was a long time ago. Even now in our more mature years, The Stance is excruciatingly difficult to maintain when one's bladder is especially full. When you have to "go" in a public bathroom, you find a line of women that makes you think there's a half-price sale on Nelly's underwear in there. So, you wait and smile politely at all the other ladies, also crossing their legs and smiling politely. And you finally get closer. You check for feet under the stall doors. Every one is occupied. Finally, a stall door opens and you dash, nearly knocking down the woman leaving the stall. You get in to find the door won't latch. It doesn't matter. You hang your purse on the door hook, yank down your pants and assume "The Stance." Relief. More relief. Then your thighs begin to shake. You'd love to sit down but you certainly hadn't taken time to wipe the seat or lay toilet paper on it, so you hold The Stance as your thighs experience a quake that would register an eight on the Richter scale. To take your mind off it, you reach for the toilet paper. The toilet paper dispenser is empty. Your thighs shake more. You remember the tiny tissue that you blew your nose on-that's in your purse. It would have to do. You crumble it in the puffiest way possible. It is still smaller than your thumbnail. Someone pushes open your stall door because the latch doesn't work and your purse whams you in the head. "Occupied!" you scream as you reach out for the door, dropping your tissue in a puddle and falling backward, directly onto the toilet seat. You get up quickly, but it's too late. Your bare bottom has made contact with all the germs and life forms on the bare seat because you never laid down toilet paper, not that there was any, even if you had enough time to. And your mother would be utterly ashamed of you if she knew, because her bare bottom never touched a public toilet seat because, frankly, "You don't know what kind of diseases you could get." And by this time, the automatic sensor on the back of the toilet is so confused that it flushes, sending up a stream of water akin to a fountain and then it suddenly sucks everything down with such force that you grab onto the toilet paper dispenser for fear of being dragged to China. At that point, you give up. You're soaked by the splashing water. You're exhausted. You try to wipe with a Chicklet wrapper you found in your pocket, then slink out inconspicuously to the sinks. You can't figure out how to operate the sinks with the automatic sensors, so you wipe your hands with spit and a dry paper towel and walk past a line of women, still waiting, cross-legged and unable to smile politely at this point. One kind soul at the very end of the line points out that you are trailing a piece of toilet paper on your shoe as long as the Mississippi River! You yank the paper from your shoe, plunk it the woman's hand and say warmly, "Here. You might need this." At this time, you see your man, who has entered, used and exited his bathroom and read a copy of War and Peace while waiting for you. "What took you so long?" he asks, annoyed... This is when you kick him sharply in the shin and go home. This is dedicated to all women everywhere who have ever had to deal with a public toilet. And it finally explains to all you men what takes us so long. PS - The answer to the other question, why do women go in pairs. It's so the other woman can hold the door and hand you Kleenex.

I would say there would be pain involved because when the muscles become starved for air then lactic acid builds up, you know like when you run and you get a stitch in your side or leg cramps. Wouldn't that also apply here?

This thread came at a good time for me after finishing a grueling Pharmacology class and having a Father that has had nothing but problems after a routine surgery and feeling that maybe I should just shuck it all and go to work at the Hardee's down the road I needed this.... I feel that there is an art to Nursing many people can do all the science and get through school and the NCLEX test but they never get the "ART" of it. I have always said Nursing was my calling and many have looked at me like I was a nut but when I am in the role of nurse (even as a student) I feel I am were I am suppose to be Thank you all for the LIFT and regeneration I need for one more semester

I find the biggest problem in the classroom is the girls and one guy who wears enough perfume/cologne to stink up the room and with no windows this is a problem. I have ended up with more than one headache over this. We stopped one girl by telling her hey could you cut down on this because we have to sit in the room with you and it stinks She was insulted but she stopped wearing it

university of Indiana has a brand new program they go to there web site and if you run a search on the site you could find some post about this with some links