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Cath lab duties
It depends on the lab. In my last lab RNs could scrub, circulate/ back circulate and monitor. We also suture pockets and place and pull arterial and venous sheaths. In my new lab we can do all the same roles just no sutures or access
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Cath Lab interview
Read Dr. Morton Kerns cath lab handbook. Best prep you can do!
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Cardiac Step down interviewing for Cath Lab
Hey there! I went in to the lab as a new grad, no prior experience. I would suggest getting Dr. Morton Kerns cath lab hand book, read it 3 or 4 times front to back before your interview and mention that you have done so in your interview, it goes a long way in your interview. Cath labs want enthusiasm and eagerness to learn in their applicants. If you can show that it won't matter how much experience you have. Besides having ICU and er experiences doesn't make you a good cath lab nurse. I have none and I am the first to take the sickest of the sick patients, it's my favorite case to circulate, vents, drips, MCS, RSI it's all fun! I also scrub and monitor. Being a team player, comfortable with being uncomfortable and willing to be flexible with your job role and continuing to strive to learn more are some great cath lab traits. Good luck!
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Student in Cath lab- struggling, thinking of quitting
Oh jeez! That's a lot of stuff to happen! I'll tell you what, you're definitley dealing with a toxic person that should not be percepting. This is not "the industry" this is a crappy person. Anytime I have a student or im percepting a new nurse it's always in good faith, there's lots of really nice cath lab peeps. If your not being treated in good faith you just need to work with a new team or new group that will be OK with you being you and asking questions and not treating you bad because you don't know something. Don't give up, this is a test and you will get through it. Talk with your instructor, explain that you are feeling intimidated by your preceptor and see if there's a way you can be reassigned. Do you rotate with other staff in the lab? Is anyone treating you nicely? Do you change labs or crews ever? What about the manager? Can you write her an email about emsil your going through to set up a meeting? If you can email the manager cc your instructor and see if you can meet with them to work it out. If they are not scrubbing in with you it may be a good sign because that means they aren't scared that you will make a mistake every step of the case. If they are watching you like a hawk it may be because they don't trust your competency. If they let you do the case its because they trust you will be OK. If a student screwed up its on the preceptor to be watching as much as the student. Also this is temporary, your almost done! You don't have to work in this lab when you graduate and you may never see these people again. There is so much opportunity once you're out and you can pick where and who you work for. If you don't like the culture of a lab you can bounce! It's really fun when you work with a crew you enjoy being around. Honestly it doesn't even feel like work imo Haha! Do you have a tutor or someone you can talk with outside of this lab to bounce questions off of? If not DM me and I would be happy to chat with you over the phone or discord or something!
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Upset Over Patient Who Crashed
Honestly it sounds like a pretty random case with no definitive answer. I wouldn't lose sleep over it. You didn't do anything wrong and checking a mag level for infrequent PVCs is fine, but 2g mag IV is not fixing his problem imo. This may sound bad, but old people die even if you do everything you can to save them. By 87 that's pretty much a wrap, everyday is a gift and could be your last.
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How many are in your STEMI team?
Hi we run 4 man teams in my lab. It's so that we can bill for moderate sedation by having a dedicated sedation nurse.
- Scope of practice in the OR, am I the only one that sees a problem with this?
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Student in Cath lab- struggling, thinking of quitting
Yeah I can understand that. This may be a struggle that you have to work through for the rest of your career. I think how often you take things personally has a lot to do with personality and temperament. Everyone has a hot button and for me, the goal has always been to cool my hot buttons down so that I'm not overly sensitive if someone speaks rudely or questions me. Also one other thing regarding this social dynamic, if someone in ther group finds out that something specifically bothers you that's like throwing chum for the sharks. Try to take every comment with a grain of salt and just try not to take life to seriously. You gotta be your own best cheerleader and send yourself positive thoughts and encouragement before during and after your shift. Everywhere you go people will be testing your knowledge and questioning your decisions until trust is established. So just expect this to happen in most circumstances. And do your best to establish competency and trust early in your working relationships. IDK if any of this helped up keep me updated on how things go!
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Student in Cath lab- struggling, thinking of quitting
Here's my opinion for what it's worth: The cath lab is a cliquey place by its very nature. We work on a very close level with our colleagues, the good teams are tight and seamless. The goal during a case is to be thinking what everyone else is thinking all at the same time, often with out saying any words, anticipating needs and thinking 3 steps ahead at all times. Depending on how supportive your team is will determine your experience. If they are not supportive it will SUCK! If they are supportive it will be so much fun! So just know that there are some great labs out there with cool people, but there will always be someone who is competitive and dominant and trying to be the best in the group. Heck there might be 2 or 3 of them. This is the nature of the beast. Your goal is to learn as much as you can, be humble and study study study! Observe how everyone else does things and ask people, who are nice, for help. Don't ask the shark in the grotto l group for help they will eat you! Alos: The lab tends to weed out the weak links. Why, do you ask? Well, because if your lacking knowledge or skill, you are a LIABILITY not an asset. So under high stress circumstances we want to be able to trust that you will be cool, competent, and skilled and to know what the heck is going on and how to fix what ever needs to be fixed without having to ask someone else for help. So my advice is this keep studying, keep learning, stay humble, don't take things personally, don't worry what people think about you, have grace for yourself, do your best and forget the rest. Just remind yourself that when you finish you're geting the Eff out of that lab and finding a more supportive lab with a more fun and supportive crew. It sounds like your doing great, and you just have some lame people bullying you a little bit, it's all good, don't trip chocolate chip! Getting bullied is a thing that can happen and it's an opportunity for you to grow and get tough. You will toughen up and you will get better! Let me know if you have any thoughts or opinions on what I have said or if you have any specific questions about the lab or anything related to cath! Your safe with me ?
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New Cath Lab RN
Hey there, I would recommend watching the Youtube channel "CCC live cases" it is a monthly live cath lab case Dr.Kini and Dr. Sharma perform from Mt. Sinai NY. They are incredible teachers and it's a great way to start to understand the cath lab process and lingo. Also the channel transradialworld is a wealth of knowledge. Also the channel Dr. Manos Brilakis, he talks really fast but just slow the speed down and he is amazing. If you check these channels out let me know what you think!
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Path to Cath Lab RN
If you PM me I will send you a bunch of Good info!
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Path to Cath Lab RN
Hi there! Our call is kind of hardcore compared to other labs. We do a whole week straight every 3rd week. We can do anywhere from 0 hrs of call back to 25+hrs. It's very hit or miss. We also take call for all IR procedures. Bigger labs often require much less call. I've seen a day or two every week and one weekend a month. We also run 4 can crews so it makes the call team's very fun and much lower stress than 3 man crews. Some hospitals have bonus incentive programs for MDs if they do a certain number of cases per quarter or yearly so they may be having call teams run at all hours of the night for stuff that could wait till the morning so depending on how your hospital runs you may be working all night on your call days or you could be only going in for emergencies every now and again or a mix of the two.
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Scope of practice in the OR, am I the only one that sees a problem with this?
The CSTs proof of competency and training has nothing to do with a circulating RNs role or responsibilities. If there was a bad outcome, and you were brought in for a depo regarding a CST doing specific procedures outside of their scope all you would have to say is that it is not within my purview as a circulating nurse to know the CSTs scope of practice. Also if the MD signs off on it, it's as if the MD DID it in the documentation. The documentation will reflect that he did it. He will have to answer. The circulator is not responsible in any way. This truly is a non issue, and for the nurse to speak up about this and call out the entire CST staff can hinder the nurses ability to function optimally within the team dynamic. These actions can actually have the reverse affect on the circulating nurse. It can paint that nurse out to be untrustworthy by other staff and often times that nurses practice will begin to be scrutinized and they are at hirer risk for being reprimanded for things that otherwise would not be an issue had they not spoken up about other staff. By being too nosy in other peoples business you can actually make your personal and professional life much more difficult than it needs to be.
- Scope of practice in the OR, am I the only one that sees a problem with this?
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Techniques on Femoral Arterial Sheath removal?
Gj, it sounds like you did everything really well. Retrograde means the sheath is facing towards the aorta going against ther flow of blood. Antegrade means your going away from the aorta and with the flow of blood, this changes where the hole is in the artery and where you hold pressure. He probably wanted to leave the sheath for 2 hours to get the ACT lower to prevent bleeding, that's a great option. He can disregard her pain all he wants but you should always have a high suspicion for bleed if they are having excessive or referred pain. Pain in the thigh may be a concern for compartment syndrome but that's usually resolved with direct pressure. Retroperitineal bleeds are the doozies. That's what you don't want. Back, flank, abdominal, pubic pain, hard, stiff painful swelling, growing hematomas these are what to look for. If after 20 minutes your still oozing I keep holding pressure. Honestly for a 7F sheath with anticoagulation on board im probably holding for 35 minute post cath if we don't close with perclose or angioseal. Also you can set up pressure dressings with tape if your still concerned but the doc doesn't want a femstop. Great job over all. Also talk with your cardiologist to confirm it's OK to do this, but if you have any question about the access site take the dressing off, put some sterile gloves on and hold pressure directly over the artery. Let me know what you think and if you have any other thoughts!
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Techniques on Femoral Arterial Sheath removal?
Leverage helps, so being well above the bed using a stool is good. Depending on the French size and if they are anticoagulated will determine how long you hold pressure. The larger the sheath and the higher the ACT or aPTT the longer I hold. Also holding pressure over the insertion sight is a good rule of thumb as long as it's a retrograde stick. If it's antegrate that's a whole different ball of wax. Talk to your educator if you get those. Getting a good groin/GU/ abdominal assessment before you pull the sheath helps to catch bleeding early. If they get hard painful swelling around or near the public symphasus or anywhere else that's a sign they may be bleeding. It's nice to have a femstop handy if you have a hostile groin and your not able to achieve hemostasis. Those are some of my tips! If I think of more I'll add them!
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Cath lab vs EP Lab
I've only worked cath lab so this is just one side of the coin but some things I love about it, lots of different procedures to learn about, cardiogenic shock management is very fun! Call back pay is sweet, lots of free food from different company reps, holidays and weekends off mostly. The bad: Radiation exposure. That's pretty much the only thing I can think of Haha!
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The Motivator
My motivator is that my job is fun, and I have to feed my family. Both are motivation enough.
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Path to Cath Lab RN
Hey there! Im a new grad in the cath lab (about 1 year in) and it's sooo much fun! Im mesmerised everyday I go to work, I keep pinching myself thinking im in a dream Haha! Best job ever! My best advice would be to buy a hard copy of Dr. Morton Kern's cath lab essentials and start reading. Honestly I would read it cover to cover a few times, then I would reach out to the manger of the cath lab at your hospital and let them know how enthusiastic you are about the cath lab. Once you go down to talk with her/him let the manager know your currently reading it and how much you are enjoying it, be able to speak to what your learning; THEN ask for what resources they suggest. Brush up on cardiogenic shock management/resuscitation/ pharmacology and be able to speak to that as well. Don't talk about the ICU or your lack of experience just talking about the cath lab! Honestly your enthusiasm and drive to learn will take you miles ahead of any ICU experience you may possess in my opinion. You can't teach drive, and your drive will make you lean quickly and get you the position. Some big talking points regarding traits of a good cath lab nurse to keep im mind: Slow is smooth, smooth is fast Team work/ team player Always learning Strong communication skills Multitasking Humility/ take criticism well I could keep going but these are just a few things to keep in mind when speaking to the manager. Best of luck! Let me know if you have questions!
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struggling first year nurse help needed
Hey there! Im sorry your having trouble your first year. I think from what your described in your likes/wants in a job, PACU would be a really great option. Or possible ambulatory care/pre-op/day surgery. Both of these jobs have those kinds of descriptions you put out. PACU would be more critical thinking and airway skills, but both would fit you in my opinion. Regarding how you are being treated at your job, not all hospitals are this unsupportive. I would seek out a faith based or non profit hospital with a great reputation and try to get hired there to see if that changes anything. Let me know what you think! Best wishes, keep us updated!
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Feeling incompetent after rapid response
Im a new grad in the cath lab, here's my advice: First off it sounds like you did a great job. Did you get to see the pads get put on and your charge nurse flip the switch to pacing? If so, great that's pretty much how you do it! What you can do in your free time at work is fiddle with the Zoll or what ever defibrillator you have. Ask a seasoned nurse who knows it well to show you all the gadgets and tricks on it. If it's a Zoll practice swapping in to manual mode and switching to the pace tab. Touch the mA and rate PPM dials. You can also go over your code drugs in your spare time. Atropine, epi, neo, amio. Etc. Doses, indications, Contraindications. Once you know when to use these and what dose, you might feel more comfortable to give them. You can't be expected to pace an unstable 3 degree heart block 6 months in with out a little guidance from someone who has been there and done it. That's totally appropriate for your charge nurse to hop in and show you the ropes. Next time you will get to do it! Same with the atropine, it's commendable that you understood that you were not comfortable giving the medication, next time you will be! Its see one, do one, teach one not do one, see one, teach one Haha! Best of luck to you! This is a great experience, consider your self fortunate to have a great team you can rely on!
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ED to ICU: Hard Time Getting an Interview because ED Experience Doesn't Count?
I know a ton of nurses who have gone from ED to ICU. It's a pretty reasonable transition in my opinion. Here are a few thoughts I have that may be slowing things down in your transition. 1. You only have 7 months of nursing experience, ICU mangers are looking for nurses who are going to stay long term. It takes a long time and a lot of money to train you up and they want a return on the time and money invested. This could be considered a red flag to hiring managers. If your percieved as job hopping. 2. How your resume is worded can have a large impact on how easily your resume lands on ther desk of a hiring manager. You need to promote all of ther critical care education and skills byou have gained on your experience and skills portion of your resume. 3. Your interviewing skills are what make or brake the job offer. For instance I have had 4 cath lab job offers all over the country as a new grad with less than 6 months of expertise and a 30 minute zoom interview because of my interviewing skills. If you sound like an ICU nurse in the interview and your passion for critical care is recieved well your experience is not really important. This is just my experience. Best of luck
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New to Cath Lab
Hey there, I'm a cath lab nurse with about a year of experience. I went in as a new grad and did fine, literally had 3 months on cardiac PCU experience then jumped right in. It's all about how much you really want it. If you go in eager to learn everything it's a ton of fun! But if your not studying regularly in your off time it may be more difficult. I truly love the CCL, it doesn't even feel like work. It's just fun. Best of luck!
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new grad- cath lab interview help
Hey there! I started in the cath lab as a new grad as well! Been here about a year now and seriously can't see myself doing anything else. It's so fun! I've done about 5 interviews with other cath labs across the country and was offered jobs at all of them. This is my experience. I would suggest getting the cardiac catheterization handbook by Morton Kern. You could mention this on your interview. It shows your dedicated, you can talk about what your currently reading up on. Also learn the heart pressures SVC, RA, RV, PA ,PCWP, LV AO. Check out what an impella is and how it works maybe look up CPO and PAPI calculations, understand your vasopressers and inotropes, dosing and indications, maybe brush up on cardiogenic shock management. Maybe look up how to do moderate sedation. All of this stuff might be talked about in your interview. If you can speak to this stuff a bit it will show your a fast leaner and eager to adapt to the CCL. Also they may ask about how you work under pressure and how you work as a team member. Be ready to give an example or two about a time you had an emergency and how you dealt with it. Also look up some catheter names, JL4, JR4, AL1 AR1, Pig tail, if you can talk about these catheters it will show your a fast leaner and enthusiastic about the CCL. Your ambition and drive is going to be your selling point because you don't know anything yet so showing them that you are teachable, smart, cool under pressure and eager will go a long way! Best of luck.