Please direct me to a thread if this has already been discussed!
I saw an ad for Inside Edition or some such show a few days ago and wanted to catch it. It was "the real reason why cameras aren't allowed during deliveries." Our institution won't allow photos, still or moving, during deliveries, and no cameras or anything in the OR (although people sneak them in all the time). They say it's to lessen the distractions of the staff, keep people out of the way, etc. But the families are always saying, "so it's so we can't have a record if anything goes wrong, right?"
What experiences/reasons do your facilities have? Any lawsuits, etc?? Of course I'm not asking for exacts, just *this may have happened* or could have, or we're preventing these things this way.
This is a difficult thing to settle... pt's right to have a record of the birth (makes sense ) vs staff's right to do their job unhindered and to not be on tape ( also makes sense ). Pt safety always, always comes first. we don't need people crowding the warmer ( oh, look at how blue he is, oh, hear that funny sound he makes ? Well we like all babies ( even boys ) to be PINK !!!While most families are genuinely only interested in the 'memories', and are completely cooperative and pleasant you sometimes have people/families who totally ignore you, treat you with disrespect ,like you're actually a nuisance ( never mind that we're helping their niece/nephew make a smooth transition to extrauterine life and therefore not have to be on the short bus when they start school )and who want to record everything to try to 'catch you' doing something wrong...like they don't trust you at all and it's their way of controlling you ( ...you better be on your best behavior !!!) It makes for an unpleasant situation...and most of the time, the pts themselves are sweethearts. If we've had a great rapport with a family, heck, we're the ones going :" Hey, where's your camera ", and give them suggestions of how to do pictures ( when everything is safe of course ).
Example that comes to mind. About 2 years ago I had this Primip with her mom and sisters. Pt herself was adorable but her family totally ignored me. When she got to about 6cm, her family had her pushing. I would go to the room because I saw the pushing on monitor and would say : " I don't want you pushing right now for x, y and z ...as soon as I left the room they were at it again...I go back and before entering room I hear pt say : " but my nurse said..." the mom cuts her off and says :" listen to me, I'm your mom, that nurse knows nothing... (....SOMEBODY RESTRAIN ME !! ...) So I go back in and give her my spiel again....and the look on those women's faces ( except the pt )...like I was a bag of garbage. And honestly I usually have an excellent rapport with my pts...Of course video this and that, picture here and there...when baby came out, they're all over the place, we have to physically move them out of the way ( baby was on the floppy side ). We ask them to stop taping, they flat out refuse ( we have them sign an agreement beforehand to specific conditions ). Needless to say this was unpleasant...even the doc, who usually never interferes, got upset and threw them out....
I don't have an answer to this situation, but we need to come up with a safe and fair compromise that will satisfy family's need for great memories and staff's need to work safely and unhindered...
P.S. Baby was fine but mom ended up back in O.R. when the bleeding wouldn't stop ... due to multiple cervical lacerations/tears ... Oh my ! what a surprise !!!
Minou
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This is a difficult thing to settle... pt's right to have a record of the birth (makes sense ) vs staff's right to do their job unhindered and to not be on tape ( also makes sense ). Pt safety always, always comes first. we don't need people crowding the warmer ( oh, look at how blue he is, oh, hear that funny sound he makes ? Well we like all babies ( even boys ) to be PINK !!!While most families are genuinely only interested in the 'memories', and are completely cooperative and pleasant you sometimes have people/families who totally ignore you, treat you with disrespect ,like you're actually a nuisance ( never mind that we're helping their niece/nephew make a smooth transition to extrauterine life and therefore not have to be on the short bus when they start school )and who want to record everything to try to 'catch you' doing something wrong...like they don't trust you at all and it's their way of controlling you ( ...you better be on your best behavior !!!) It makes for an unpleasant situation...and most of the time, the pts themselves are sweethearts. If we've had a great rapport with a family, heck, we're the ones going :" Hey, where's your camera ", and give them suggestions of how to do pictures ( when everything is safe of course ).
Example that comes to mind. About 2 years ago I had this Primip with her mom and sisters. Pt herself was adorable but her family totally ignored me. When she got to about 6cm, her family had her pushing. I would go to the room because I saw the pushing on monitor and would say : " I don't want you pushing right now for x, y and z ...as soon as I left the room they were at it again...I go back and before entering room I hear pt say : " but my nurse said..." the mom cuts her off and says :" listen to me, I'm your mom, that nurse knows nothing... (....SOMEBODY RESTRAIN ME !! ...) So I go back in and give her my spiel again....and the look on those women's faces ( except the pt )...like I was a bag of garbage. And honestly I usually have an excellent rapport with my pts...Of course video this and that, picture here and there...when baby came out, they're all over the place, we have to physically move them out of the way ( baby was on the floppy side ). We ask them to stop taping, they flat out refuse ( we have them sign an agreement beforehand to specific conditions ). Needless to say this was unpleasant...even the doc, who usually never interferes, got upset and threw them out....
I don't have an answer to this situation, but we need to come up with a safe and fair compromise that will satisfy family's need for great memories and staff's need to work safely and unhindered...
P.S. Baby was fine but mom ended up back in O.R. when the bleeding wouldn't stop ... due to multiple cervical lacerations/tears ... Oh my ! what a surprise !!!
Minou