Violence against nurses - page 2
I am working to get a piece of legislation passed in Oregon that would permit nurses who are assaulted in the line of duty to press charges against the perpetrator, even if they are a patient. There... Read More
Feb 3, '09Occupation: stay at home mom/ student From: US ; Joined: Jan '09; Posts: 1; Likes: 1I'm a prenursing student at the moment but wish you the best of luck in getting this thing passed
Feb 3, '09Joined: Oct '08; Posts: 4; Likes: 4I have written an article on workplace violence, I have been on a radio show x 2 talking about the violence against health care workers. We are no different then anyone else providing service,what makes these folks think it is okay to yell,swear and punch us.
Feb 5, '09Joined: May '07; Posts: 459; Likes: 304I am always surprised that employers are not sponsoring this type of legislation. They can and do get the pants sued off of them for not protecting their employees in situations similar to this. Every workplace should have adequate protection for their employees in place, including reporting hotlines, response teams, specialized report forms and protocols, central contact point, etc, etc. Violence anywhere should never be tolerated. Also, keep in mind that most violence is perpetrated by known assailants. This is especially true in the workplace.
I would fully support this type of thing, and am surprised it is not already in place.
Feb 8, '09Occupation: RN & CRN Tele/PCU Specialty: 5+ year(s) of experience in Cardiac Telemetry/PCU, SNF ; From: US ; Joined: Jun '05; Posts: 306; Likes: 196I noticed this thread was originally from 2007, any further updates?
In Arizona where I went to school, it is a felony to assault a health-care worker. They have signs all over ERs there noting this. There is no reason why we as nurses shouldn't have this sort of protection and a law would make it so that employers would balk at interfering with nurses reporting violence and getting charges filed.
We've had run-ins with families at my work, I've had patients swing at me and have never felt that if push-came-to-shove, management would have my back (frightening, eh?). Now it's one thing when Mr. Demented Sun-downer swings at you out of fear and delirium, but it's something else altogether when a cognizant adult does it. For some reason we're just supposed to take it.
What gets me is when the Hospital Association work against somehting like this. You better believe if someone walked in off the street into their office and hit them, they'd be filing charges in a heartbeat. Double-standards like this...well let' say it doesn't make me happy.
Feb 22, '09Joined: Oct '08; Posts: 4; Likes: 4thank you for responsing, In three days we have had two nurses assaulted,our union allows for time and the hos[ital has a EAP program. But we are still assaulted Any ideas out there?
Feb 23, '09Occupation: RN Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 2,030; Likes: 5,935Quote from actiongirlCall the police, and have the perpetrator arrested on the spot. If the hospital complains, call the media, and let them know that is going on. The sqeaky wheel gets the grease! JMHO and my NY $0.02.thank you for responsing, In three days we have had two nurses assaulted,our union allows for time and the hos[ital has a EAP program. But we are still assaulted Any ideas out there?
Lindarn, RN, BSN, CCRN
Nov 6, '09Occupation: RN Specialty: ER, Psych, Telephone Triage ; From: US ; Joined: Aug '09; Posts: 173; Likes: 83In San Diego I once heard that UCSD had guard dog patrols in ER?
Want a quick way to quell a fight, intimidate an aggressive threatening patient?
How about assigning a guard with a large German Shepard to the ED!
The dog will be much cleaner then the bumbs and junkies that we deal with!
You wont have to worry about any stray bullets hitting anyone or having to shut down the ER after macing the guy, no one else will get hurt. Unless the trouble maker is psychotic he will definetly stop and do as he is told and if he is psychotic he will become lunch for the doggie!
Jul 12, '10Joined: Jul '10; Posts: 1You must ask yourself what the risk is when entering into a particular field. If you become a firefighter, you may be required to enter a burning building as others run out! If you join the military, you may need to fire a gun at someone who is firing back. If you decide to work in the field of acute care psychiatry, you may consider that a person sufferring from mental illness, may become aggressive or violent, and direct that hostility towards you. Your best bet for safety is to choose a profession or area of your profession which does not have a high probability of being assaulted. (Acute care psychiatry is second next to law enforcement for most assaults) I have been the victim of patient violence, however I also realized the risk of the profession when entering the field. This does not cover the topics of ongoing violence prevention training, adequate staffing, and proactive management, safety officers, good risk assessments on admission, etc. Unlike criminal activity which may have intent to harm, someone who is hallucinating or delusional may not have the cognitive ability to function like you or I. With this in mind, you need a good understanding of the scope of your practice, and ultimately a good understanding of your limitations. My goal is to assist those with mental illness to return to the community in a better state than on admission. When going to work I know there is a risk that someone may assault me. I take all the precautions I can to ensure the safety of the patients and myself. However, the job is not meant for everyone, just like firefighting! Thank God for all those who do the jobs no one else will, enjoy them, and help others.
Jul 13, '10Joined: Mar '10; Posts: 145; Likes: 6I am not a nurse, I work as a CNA.
I had my share of violence from patients who were either mentally incapable or older people whose judgment was questionable.
Two Chrismases ago, I was "kidnapped and assaulted"(by the standards of the world outside of the realm of a nursing home) in a bathroom by elderly lady. It took two people to get her off me.
Do I think she should go to jail? NO. I don't think that elderly, frail, and incontinent people would fit very well in the prison population.
Most of my co-workers are in agreement that people who are violent need to be medicated and their symptoms managed.
Thank you for bringing up this issue. Most people don't suspect what staff has to go trough in the locked/psych units.