Old nurse verse New nurse

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After four years as an LPN with 11+yrs as a CNA; I really do not think of my self as a "new" nurse but I am always learning and do not know everything when it comes to my job as a floor nurse in a LTC/Sub-Acute/Rehab setting but I also feel extremely comfortable and ready for any..any..situation. That said, I met my match last night. I worked with, at first, a very nice older nurse...we will call her "Nurse J"... Several situations came up during our shift last night that involved my patients and one situation that involved another nurse's patients.

Situation #1...

During report, the reporting nurse informed me that one of my resident's was still up in her w/c and did not want to go to bed. She reported that when staff approached her and attempted to her put her bed, she would become very upset. I didnt think it was a major problem, and thought eventually she would go to bed. "Nurse J" told me immediatly after report that I should give the resident an Ativan so she would go to bed. Being a new nurse to the facility, I did not know my resident that well. So I looked in her chart and saw that she had an order for PRN Ativan for agitation and her last dose was the day before and that she rarely needed it. At that time, she was sitting in her w/c, eating a snack. She is alert with extreme confusion. But no agitation noted. So, I let her be. I advised the CNAs to offer her to go to bed when they do rounds. As the night went on, she was becoming more and more tired and started to hum. But refused to go to bed. "Nurse J" told her she "needed" to go to bed and the resident told her "No..you cant tell me what I need." She was never at any point agitated to the point she needed a PRN Ativan. I documented in nursing notes that she was refusing to go to bed when offered. At 3am, I had another resident situation and I was in that resident's room for about 25mins. When I came out, my resident was no longer up by the nurse's station. The CNA at the desk said the girls were putting her to bed. I figured she had just finally became tired and wanted to go to bed. "Nurse J" came out of the med room and said to me that she gave my patient her "night pill" and is finally going to bed and called her a "stubborn ol lady". I was floored. I asked her if she was agitated and "Nurse J" told me she was just annoying and wouldnt stop humming. Plus she needed to go to bed. I looked at the MAR and sure enough "Nurse J" gave her a PRN Ativan for agitation. Whenever a PRN is given, it must be charted what behavior was noted on the back of the PRN sheet and "Nurse J" charted she was a "7 out of 10" agitated and was "disrubpting" the unit. I asked her if she documented in progress notes why the med was given (as required) and she told me that no, that it was my resident that I needed to document. I told her I was not able to chart on something I did not see. I am all about giving someone a PRN med...WHEN THEY NEED IT!!! This resident did not !! You cannot force someone to go to bed. She refused. She has rights. It really ****** me off that "Nurse J", imho, stepped over her bounds and did that.

Situation #2

During report (again) , the reporting nurse told me that one of our older residents was in resp. distess and she wasnt sure what the next step was because she was a DNR. I asked if she called the doc and she said no. I asked why not and she said because she is a DNR. (really?!) I asked her if she knew what DNR means and she said yea..."do not do CPR.."(again really?!) I said ok..but we still treat. As she was talking, we were heading to the resident's room so I can assess the situation. She is a 96yr french speaking eldery lady with a hx of dementia, HTN, MI, COPD and DM. I entered the room and noted her laying flat in bed, and struggling to breath. She was on O2 via NC at 4L. I raised the head of bed up and put an extra pillow behind her. Her skin was cool and clamy. She was really answering my questions, just saying "yea". BP 98/50 HR 88 RR 24 and temp 98.9 .Lungs were noted with rhonci, sats were 85% with O2 at 4L via NC. I turned down the O2 to 2L. She had a PRN neb tx order for Q 4hrs. I asked the nurse when was the last neb tx and she stated she didnt know she had the order. ( smh at this point). So I gave her the PRN neb tx. Her sats improved to 95% but she was still, to me, in some sort of distress. Again, I really do not know the resident and do not know her baseline but something wasnt right with this resident. So I quickly phone the doctor and while waiting for the return call, the nurse and I finish report and the narc count. "Nurse J" had overheard all of this and went down to assess the resident herself. She came back and told me that is was "nothing" that she is "just dying" and there isnt really anything I could do because she is a DNR. I really didnt know what to say at that point. The doc called back and ordered stat labs, stat CXR, 1GM Rochephin Now, Duonebs every 4hrs and Z-Pack as directed to start in AM. Lab and xray results suggested pneumonia. MD updated. He stated he would be in first thing in the AM to see her and to call if any changes. "Nurse J " told me that I was making a big fuss over nothing, how I was just wasting my time.

Situation #3

A nurse came from the other unit and asked what she should do about a noted med omission. She had a resident that is AAOX3, c/o of severe pain and stated to her that the previous nurse did not give her any 9pm meds, including her sleeping pill and pain pills. When she did request something for pain, she was given Tylenol. The night nurse noted that the PM nurse signed out in the MAR that the meds were given but did not sign out in the NARC book that the NARCS were given and the counts for the meds were correct. It was clearly obvious the resident did not get her scheduled NARCS even the though the PM nurse signed the MAR. I told the night nurse its a med error and she needed to follow the facilities protocal when a med error occurs. At the very least, give the resident something for pain and let the supervisor know the morning. "Nurse J" stated to just medicate the drug seeker and mind your business. If you report her, that is tattletelling and nurses are too old to be a bunch of tattle tellers.

What would have done?

You are the patient advocate. Do what a PRUDENT nurse would do. Nurse J is not a prudent nurse. When the **** hits the fan, who will ultimately be held responsible? Stand your ground and do what is right. As stated before, you are not there to make friends.

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I love you attitude and i think your an amazing nurse! I could feel the compassion in your situations and you truly tried to do the right thing! Its nice to know people like you exist! :)

I wouldn't have given Ativan but would have tried some Tylenol and a warm blanket.

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