Rumor: North Shore LIJ hospitals no longer hiring ADN nurses.

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Can anyone confirm or deny this rumor?

I have been told by 2 separate hospital employees that NSLIJ just passed down a policy that NO associate degree nurses who have graduated after January 23rd 2013 are to be hired. Basically a complete BAN on ADN nurses (even if you are completing your BSN).

I'm a hospital employee and more than half done with my ADN (my school only offers separate ADN and BSN degrees, rather than a straight-through-BSN). I find it pretty disgusting that they would do such a thing without at least grandfathering in existing NSLIJ employees who have already enrolled in an ADN program.

I'd heard a lot of that. You certainly know what you're talking about. Thank you for the information!

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I'd heard a lot of that. You certainly know what you're talking about. Thank you for the information!

Shoud ammend my original post that it was only Richmond College that was going to be closed, SICC was vastly more popular in terms of attendance and had more steady source of funding wasn't going anywhere.

For a long time after the merger/creation of CSI there were still two campus sites. A shuttle bus ran frequent service between the two which was also great if you wanted to get to the ferry from Todt Hill and vice versa. Allot of staff and students did come from Manhattan and used the shuttle bus to get back and forth from the ferry as well.

When everything moved to the former Willowbrook site it really helped kill Saint George, especially Saint Mark's place. The area is so different now.

Years ago right through the 1980's and perhaps into the 1990's you only needed (on paper) a 2.5 GPA in the student nursing sequence (Eng 100, Soc 100, A&P1 with lab,bacteriology with lab, and a half semester quasi chem course who's name I forget). Depending upon the number of applicants you could get in with that bare bones minimum GPA, and during the 1980's there wasn't a huge crush of applicants either. There was none of the SAT or NLN exam requirements of today either. Long as you had passed the CUNY math and English assessment exams that was it.

Med dose calc was a half semester course for either zero or maybe one credit. You took it along with Med/Surg I but woe if you failed as it was required to take Med Surg II. One of the nursing professors who taught the class then (Mrs. *) is now an author of books/exams on the same subject. Small world eh? Medical Dosage Calculations

Clinical sites then were Saint Vincent's Hospital, Staten Island Hospital, Richmond Memorial Hospital, Victory Memorial Hospital, Veterans Hospital in Brooklyn, and South Beach Psych. For most clinical rotations you got to choose your site and time slot from a group offered on registration day. In those days it was held in the gym and was a hot mess because everything was done by paper. If a class was closed you had to hunt down the professor and see if you could get an "over tally" letter.

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Very interesting stuff!

"When everything moved to the former Willowbrook site it really helped kill Saint George, especially Saint Mark's place. The area is so different now."

Especially this bit!

Med dose calc is a 1 credit course now, full semester (but so drawn out!) and we still use that textbook textbook. CSI is mentioned in it and all of the sample MARs in it are from SIUH with the logo removed.

Some of the classes have changed around. No more chem needed at all for the associates, but 2 chem classes are required for the BSN.

Major changes to the campus these days though. They're building dorms as well as a very large new academic building which many departments are expected to move into.

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Very interesting stuff!

Especially this bit!

Med dose calc is a 1 credit course now, full semester (but so drawn out!) and we still use that textbook textbook. CSI is mentioned in it and all of the sample MARs in it are from SIUH with the logo removed.

Some of the classes have changed around. No more chem needed at all for the associates, but 2 chem classes are required for the BSN.

Major changes to the campus these days though. They're building dorms as well as a very large new academic building which many departments are expected to move into.

Read the Advance on line at least every other day so knew about the changes to CSI's campus including the dorms. Pass the place all the time when home on the Island as it's part of my "service road tour" to get from family out by Mariners Harbor on my way to the expressway/VNB go get back home to Manhattan. It's so funny because years ago as children we used to go for family outings there. There was a picnic grounds, swings, a lake with ducks (that one could feed with scraps of bread), swings, etc...

Another interesting tidbit: many minority nurses from SICC and elsewhere worked at the old Willowbrook State school and Seaview Hospital near Susan Wagner. Rumor has it those were the two places that hired "minority" nurses back in the day. Indeed the area called "Dogpatch" down from Seaview got it's name because many minority nurses and other workers from Seaview moved/lived there. The other nice place was the Todt Hill Houses, though wouldn't live there today if you paid me.

The only person I *think* is still at CSI one remembers is Prof *. She taught A&P back in my day but think she teaches something else now.

Med dose calc back then was a terror. First because you also were doing Med/Surg I (though in those days the first few clinicals were spent doing beds, AM care, etc.., and also had A&PII. Whatever methods Professor O uses today back in the 1980's it was still the old fashioned standard used by nurses since what? WWII? Not a whiff of dimensional analysis either. No caculators, show all work and one could only use the assigned formulas,period. Oh and we had to memorise all the conversions including apothecary such as grains to mg, drams to mL, etc....

Shame CSI stopped their capping and pinning ceremony and students from wearing their caps at clinicals. The school had a very distinctive cap that was different from many others, the closest would have been the old Saint Vinny's cap. The uniform was the same standard light blue dress or pants suit with white bib job many schools still use today, though more often housekeeping or assistants.

Back in the day Saint George was sort of like downtown Staten Island, especially Saint Mark's Place. Between CSI, the courts, NYPD 120, brough hall, banks and such the place was really busy during the week at least. Even early evenings as CSI had evening classes there as well. Now when I drive through there I keep on going, fast! *LOL*

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Yep, now they won't even let you in the door without one. No longer a rumor. Memo came down last week. Hospital employees who were in nursing school as of Dec 31st last year are grandfathered in though for Associates degree, but must still of course obtain BSN within 5 years of transfer to RN.

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