Everything you ever wanted to know about the BSN programs in New York City (and surrounding areas):
*Please feel free to add your experience and thoughts*
Two campuses, good professors, not easy to get into, terrible administration at Garden City, the cheapest of the expensive schools, multiple clinical locations (Long Island, Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens), must take the NET test before acceptance.
The administration regularly disgusts me (in Garden City), but the professors and administration at Manhattan make up for it. Manhattan students are very determined, Garden City students are hit or miss.
Arguably the best choice if you can't afford (or can't get into) Columbia and you don't need a lot of hand holding.
College of New Rochelle
No information. Nice campus, and fairly expensive (upper $20ks). Would like to know more.
Arguably the best program in the NYC area. About the same price as NYU. Very competitive. Not sure about clinicals, but I imagine you go to NYP - Columbia in Washington Heights. I've heard they're fairly giving with the financial aid.
Good school, very difficult to get into due to the extremely low number of spots (25?). Used to have classes next door to Bellevue, but that might have changed with the JREC plan. Never heard anyone say they had a bad experience here. *Note - this and all CUNY schools look at grades a little differently than all other schools.
50-50 love it or hate it. Fairly cheap, but typical CUNY administration (read: do it yourself). Would like to know more information. Located in the North Bronx in Bedford Park (near Westchester County).
I've heard mostly negative comments from LIU students. One called it the school of hard knocks. Would like a more broad student opinion. I've heard it's relatively expensive, but have no actual numbers. I've heard that professors were "meh".
Very similar to Adelphi. One campus, similar pricing. Would like to know more.
Part of the Dental school for some reason. Very expensive. Relatively easy to get into. Large class sizes (or so I hear). I've heard some students say that they didn't get their monies worth. Primary hospitals include Bellevue and NYU Med (Langhorn?). Not sure if classes are anywhere near Washington Square. I've heard they're stingy with financial aid.
SUNY Downstate (aka Health Science Center at Brooklyn)
Very affordable, decent class sizes, and huge hospitals. Terrible administration (lose things constantly), hospitals are difficult to get to if you don't already live near them (Kings County, Wyckoff, Woodhull). Recently had one of their advanced practice programs put on probation (NP? CRNA?). Definitely worth the application, especially if you live in (or are very familiar with) Brooklyn.
Please feel free to add to this list or question what I've written. I'd like this thread to be used by all pre-nursing students to get an idea of their options.
Jun 14, '09
Long Island University (current student):
Tuition varies by the amount of credits you take. The more credits you take the higher the tuition but it's between 22k-30k. There are some good professors and some bad professors, so far I haven't had any problems with the professors. The administration is very meh but financial aid (at least for me) was fairly good. The dorms are horrible though, most students are leaving them (3 to room).
As far as their nursing program, there's been a few problems this semester because they just started to allow registration online and they are working the bugs out of the system. Also they can be a little disorganized. The motto for the nursing program is "easy to get into, hard to stay in". Meaning if you have GPA over 3.3 and have a science GPA over 3.0 you'll be just fine. They accept about 130 people into the nursing program every semester but by the time graduation come only 60 have made it. The program is very difficult and include exit Hesi exams every semester. There is no seperate application for the nursing program, if you are accepted as a nursing student then that's exactly what you are. You have to finish all your general ed and nursing pre-reqs before starting the program and then you have to take the HESI A2, but they only look at vocab, grammar
, reading and math.
Overall I don't have a real problem with the school but maybe that's just the way I see it. The students are very friendly and people tend to branch off freshman year. The school is divided basically. You've got the students that are there for typical majors like Business, Art, English ect and then you have the health profession students doing physical therapy, pharmacy, nursing, physician assistant ect. Health profession students usually take to eachother and lose contact with the other students because of the large volume of science classes we all take together. The health profession students are very serious about their education because the programs are very difficult. The only ones that tend to goof off are the other students. I've been at the school two years and I hardly have any friends that aren't some type of health profession major. Clinical sites for nursing are New York Methodist, Brooklyn Hospital, Maimonides Medical Center, Lutheran Medical Center, NYP, New York Hospital-Queens and wycoff hospital. Lecture classes have about 40 students the most, Labs have 10 and clinicals have 10.
The campus is small but it looks rather nice. All the health profession majors are in the newest building with the better facilities. The school was a good fit for me and alot of students are really happy with it, while others can't wait to get it out so it really depends on the person and what they expect. The biggest complaint is that it's too expensive which I couldn't agree with more. So I guess to put it in perspective, if I weren't doing nursing or any other health profession they offer, I wouldn't come to the school because I really only associate with the health profession focus on the school.
Last edit by guiltysins on Jun 14, '09
Jun 14, '09
Sorry for the double posting but I didn't want to make that message scroll forever. I also attended Lehman College for a year before transferring out.
I haven't heard too many good things about Lehman College. First of they don't have a school of nursing, meaning that they don't have a dean for the school, it's run by the same people that run the rest of the college. There are no specific nursing advisors, at least for the pre-nursing students and when you go to an advisor they pretty much tell you all different things if you don't see the same one every time. They have what they call a block schedule for the first semester where you pick from a premade schedule of classes. If you don't get a nursing block you're screwed because their you miss out on A&P for the entire year. They have have A&P I during the fall semesters and A&P II during the spring. It's extremely competitive to get into the program because they only allow 60 or 70 students in. There's a high school on the campus and the students eat in the same cafeteria, walk across campus ect and sometimes it was very annoying. The students are also still on the high school mentality for the most part. You have to apply to the school and then apply seperately to the program once you finish up your pre-reqs. Their entrance exam is the PAX-RN exam. It doesn't matter if you retake science courses because they take the first grade only, regardless of whether you got an A in the class the second time around. Trying to get the science pre-reqs in this school was like playing the lottery. You were lucky if you registered early enough before all the classes closed. They didn't require you to take any psychology classes for the nursing program which I found a little odd. Their nursing courses aren't bad, about 30-35 people for lecture and 10 people for clinicals.
There nursing program was on probation once before for having low pass rates on the NCLEX and I think they might have actually lost their accredidation once a few years ago.
They have a nice size campus, about 40 acres, there's about four classroom buildings, students aren't allowed to use the elevators though unless they have a pass, but that doesn't matter because there are only four floors. The nursing department is in this little shack of a building that also houses health services and a day care center.
Last edit by guiltysins on Jun 14, '09