Published Feb 6, 2016
Rexwil
1 Post
Hello everyone, I am posting something that isn't a new discussion here on this site but it seems like so much has changed in a very short amount of time. I have been trying to get my RN here in California for the last 3 years (in the mean time I managed to get my LVN). It took forever to get all the paper work needed from both my schools in the Phils. I recently had to take a trip back so I could explain what I needed in person. Both schools said they didn't have my clinical cases also the PRC said they already disposed it. What a nightmare after all this time, my last college found it in five minutes when I was there! All the phone calls and emails sent, friends and family trying to help out with getting the right papers and they found it in 5 min. I haven't felt that good in a while. I thought I was going to have to retake the entire nursing program After everything was finally turned in I recently received a letter from the BON that I was deficient in MS and OB like so many of us foreign nurses on this site. This was great news…at first, not having to retake an entire nursing program to just having to retake two classes. But all the colleges that have been talked about here on this site are no longer allowing foreign nurses in our situation. Why? I have emailed several colleges only to receive a letter back, we no longer offer those two classes separately. If there are so many of us in this situation why doesn't a private school make it a priority to increase classes and faculty in these few classes we need? Honestly I would gladly pay 20k for these two classes, you could make that back in a year as an RN! I am pretty desperate to get these classes done and considering taking classes out of state. My husband wants to wait to have kids till I am finished with my schooling. Haha and we want babies!!!! I heard of a college that was offering these two classes in 8 weeks! That would have been perfect, now for some reason they stopped. I am soooo frustrated with this situation. If anyone has any information about schools offering these two classes, instate or out of state please please let me know. Thanks and God Bless!
steppybay
1,882 Posts
There's some reasons why these private schools have stopped offering these classes and some reasons why more either private or public schools can't offer more of the deficient courses.
There are: (a). each school's own limited financial budgets AND (b). there's a limited clinical openings AND ©. there's still the NCLEX-RN failure rates that's attached to these schools (more so when the foreign students are granted the CA transcripts.
(a). So even if there are 1,000's and upwards to over 10,000 plus just for international students (a low number considering several thousand per year are trying to get into CA, more so since 2007), there's not enough funding that any one CA schools can do just for the international needs. The priority goes to the already existing and future students who will graduate from a CA school. There's no funds to bring on more qualified nursing instructors/educators, there's no more class room to fit more students who are NOT part of that school's primary nursing core.
(b). Unlike in the Phils, where the nursing instructor to student ratio is so hugh, in the states, it's more one-on-one preceptorship (where it's one qualified experienced nurse to one nursing student), here they are joint at the hips from the time they meet in a hospital to the time the nurse or student goes home. Then, the hospital where this all happens can't safely have a bunch of inexperienced nursing students roaming around and so there's also not enough time since it all has to be co-ordinated between the hospital, the nurse and the student. The preceptor will be asking questions and needing answers from the student nurse at all time and the student are in a constant state of how do you do this, what's the next step, what will be the result(s), what's this and what's that for hours with the student needing to answer back or come back with a report.
The student's replies are always being evaluated and they do need to pass each phase.
©. One of the main reason I've heard from others and it's been posted here by others who have taken the courses (then later reported their particular school decided not to re-offer them to the international students) is the failure rate (less than 30%) of passing the NCLEX-RN after they obtained the transcripts and then allowed to take the NCLEX. This is seen as a reflection by the CA BRN evaluators of that particular school's passing rate has been reduced. This is not a true picture since it's not the failure rate of the already enrolled CA student and graduated (with the usual higher passing rate of 80-85%) but rather it's lumped together so their own statistics just got lowered. So in order, for the CA school to maintain its high passing rate, it's better to not have to enroll an international student.
Before you enroll in any courses, you need to make sure they are on the approved CA BRN list (from their website), if not, you may find yourself wasting expensive money and precious time you'll never get to make up. There could be scam schools or shady schools out there, here one day, closed the next, knowing there are so many desperate students needing to re-take these courses.
Just know there's a three year window of opportunity to re-take and get that proper transcripts submitted to the CA BRN before your non-refundable application is considered abandoned. The clock starts upon the initial date of your declined application notice.