Published Nov 11, 2003
balticbreeze
7 Posts
I guess I'm introducing myself and looking for some advice at the same time here. Please be merciful if some parts of my "confession" are a bit incoherent!
I already hold an associate's degree in allied health and bachelor's in social work from a regionally accredited institutions (Republic of Latvia), both have been evaluated as equal to U.S. standard by WES (World Education Services). My degree in allied health allows me to practice as RN in my country which I did for 4 yrs back in 90's but it wouldn' work the same way in the U.S - which is fine with me. I'm sooo ready to go back to a nursing school. I've done all kinds of weird stuff (working as a secretary, customer service agent at the airport etc) after quitting nursing just to keep my head above the water - financially speaking. Right now I'm working as a teacher's assistant in the international school in Riga/Latvia along with my american husband (I'm latvian - "born and bread") who is a Social Studies teacher here. He is crazy about the idea staying overseas for "some" time and wants me to beacome a certified teacher. I kind of gave in and enrolled at George Mason University for elem. teaching cert. It's going great, I have one more summer to go (it's a summer intensive program for international teachers), I have good grades,my instructors believe I will be an excellent teacher but there is only one problem. I WANT TO GO BACK TO WHERE MY HEART IS --- NURSING!!!
Needless to say, I've been bugging my husband about this non-stop. Finally he agreed in two years time we could go back to the Sates and I'd be able to go to a nursing school. So, I started looking for something that would suit me and discovered those accelerated and/or second-degree programs.
I've been searching high and low for the best accelerated RN or second-degree RN programs available in the U.S. and getting more and more confused by a variety of different options on the market. They come in all "shapes and sizes" - from 11mths versions to 18mths, curricula are different too, different prerequisites etc. Could somebody shed some light on this, pleaasee!!! Has anyone of you or your friends/colleagues had an experience with these programs? I would appreciate any information - cons and pro's of this type of program etc.
Sorry it turned out so long, had to let it all out!
Thank you in advance
Ilze
JenW
42 Posts
I'm also considering one of these programs. At this point, I'm going to go for the ADN program at my local community college, but I would be finished MUCH quicker if I did an accelerated or second-degree program, and I would have a BSN rather than an ADN. (I already have a Bachelors in Anthropology.) My issue is the time commitment. The ADN program I'm currently planning on entering can be done part-time, so I would be able to work full-time and take care of my 3-year-old daughter and child-to-be (due in March). The accelerated programs would mean I would have to quit work. Not sure about that yet.
So, sorry that I can't answer your questions. I'll just be keeping my eyes on this thread.
pugluvnrn
23 Posts
Hi!
I think the best bet is to go through a community college for your ADN, that's about 4 semesters after prerequisites are completed.
Then, if you want a BSN, you can go through an accelerated program although BEWARE, they are expensive.
By the way, just because you have a Bachelors in one area does not mean that with an associates degree you have a BSN, it's a completely different degree. the BSN has many special classes such as research, leadership, management, pathophysiology, etc.
I received my ADN at a community college, then went through an RN to BSN program through a local university, that took 2 years. The accelerated program was only 6 months shorter and was about $5,000 more so I didn't do it ( didn't want to take out student loans or come out of it in debt).
AND most hospitals don't pay any more $$ if you have your BSN if you are a staff nurse (although it adds points to your clinical ladder and will eventually help you get raises)
Hope this information helps!:)
hawaiit
I took DR. Frys' program of study guides for the Excelsior ASN program. His program was called the Professional Develolopement System School of Health Sciences, RNFASTTRACK. It was great for me, helped me get all As' and I dearly wanted to continue on with the program he had to finish the additional courses to do Excelsiors BSN program. Unfortunately he closed that program to start up West Haven University and its own degree programs. So I am looking for anyone who might have those study guides that I might puchase from them? If anyone knows an Excelsior BSN graduate that might have them please contact me at [email protected]
Thanks for your response!
Originally posted by JenW My issue is the time commitment. The ADN program I'm currently planning on entering can be done part-time, so I would be able to work full-time and take care of my 3-year-old daughter and child-to-be (due in March). The accelerated programs would mean I would have to quit work. Not sure about that yet.
My issue is the time commitment. The ADN program I'm currently planning on entering can be done part-time, so I would be able to work full-time and take care of my 3-year-old daughter and child-to-be (due in March). The accelerated programs would mean I would have to quit work. Not sure about that yet.
Yes, I've heard those programs are tough and there is absolutely no time for anything else but studying. I also have a daughter (1.5yrs old) and not being able spending enough time with her worries me.
Thank you for information!
Originally posted by pugluvnrn Hi!By the way, just because you have a Bachelors in one area does not mean that with an associates degree you have a BSN, it's a completely different degree. the BSN has many special classes such as research, leadership, management, pathophysiology, etc.I received my ADN at a community college, then went through an RN to BSN program through a local university, that took 2 years. Hope this information helps!:)
I received my ADN at a community college, then went through an RN to BSN program through a local university, that took 2 years.
To my understanding accelerated BSN is a slightly different program from the one you mentioned(RN to BSN). There are couple of schools offering the type I was talking about, Johns Hopkins Uni for instance offers "Accelerated baccalaureate option - Available to students who possess a bachelor's degree or higher in any major other than nursing"
http://www.son.jhmi.edu/academic_programs/undergrad/undergraduate.asp
I know they are very expensive!
Thanks again for you advice!
PJMommy
517 Posts
I'd just add that I am finishing a 12 month BSN accelerated program in December. I also have four children aged 11 and younger - so an accelerated program with children absolutely can be done. Of course, my husband is incredibly supportive so that helps tremendously.
Your story is very interesting and I can't help but wonder how great a nursing educator you would be with your teaching background. If this appeals to you, get the BSN and work on a MS later...maybe while you are working in the hospital.
The accelerated programs are expensive but, in many cases, local hospitals will foot the bill in exchange for a 3-5 year work committment.
Dragonnurse1, ASN, RN
289 Posts
Before you make any decisions you need to decide whether you are wanting to nurse or be management. Start with an ADN or ASN depending on where you settle. In some states you are required to have BSN to practice, also some specialities require BSN. I went ASN here in Alabama in program that was 23 months. I made same money as BSN as staff nurse. Problem we had was BSN's that thought that they were better than ASN's:o Try to stay away from accel. programs 1-they tend to be tougher and 2-often they try to wash out anyone they think can't make it.
Good luck and in the meantime READ READ and READ everything you can get your hands on pertaining to medicine.
Hi,
I believe Excelsior College will probably have what your looking for and they can be reached on the web by typing in their name.
Good Luck, Jennifer
PennyLane, RN
1,193 Posts
I started a 16 month program in September. If your intention is to get a BSN, I wouldn't recommend starting with the Associates Degree. You already have a degree, prob. have many of the pre-reqs done, and as you said you can finish and get your BSN in less time than it would take for the ADN.
As for having time for your daughter, there are many, many students in my class who have children. It is about equivalent to working a full-time job. I'm in school 6-9 Monday night, 11:30-1:30 Tuesday, 11-5 Wed & Thurs, and 9-2 Friday. Then you have to add on going to lab to practice, and studying at home. It all comes out to about a 40-hour work week.
Money is a factor, esp. at Johns Hopkins. But the woman I spoke with there said the average student ends up about $25,000 in debt at the end of it (that is unless you can pay cash up front!) They have a great financial aid office and have a lot of money to offer their students. I go to a state school that is a lot less expensive, but will still be about that much in debt at the end, because the states have no money for their students!!!