Nclex-pn

[poon120]

I wonder if you posted in the wrong forum????? This is the nclex-pn question and I wonder if you were responding to "why nurses are catty".

CARDIAC, you see my point right on the nose. This question is TOO SPECIFIC OF A QUESTION for an nclex-pn question. My point in the whole original thread was the "ridiculousality" of the exam in GENERAL. (if I may make up that word) Sensitivity is not an issue with myself, it was the point that how many times will you run into this situation and if it was such an issue it should be left in the patient's chart as to the care of the patient in ANY religion upon death because there are so many religions out there.

[poon120]

Are you asking about nursing steps to take while a Jew is dying (specific to Judaism), or after the death itself? Two different things.

And just because an Internet site says something is allowed or practiced does not make it true or right. According to Jewish law (called halacha), cremation is forbidden. Some may choose it, but it's like a Jew who chooses to eat a ham and cheese sandwich. They can certainly choose to do so based on their free will, but it is not a choice allowed by Jewish law.

The last poster had a point about geography playing a role. New York nurses are probably more familiar with the concept of the chevra kadisha than your average Birmingham nurse. No offense to the good nurses of Birmingham. :)

Alison

Death itself.

[poon120]

Hi Folks,

I am a male graduate practicle nurse and found the comments by Poon120 useful-Sad if anyone took what was said personal or is so sensitive they see themselves as arbiter of all things religious. That said, does anyone have any suggestions or information about preparing for the NCLEX? I have been out of school for 10 years and haven't really ever worked in the field (nursing home for 3 mo. 10 yrs ago). I took the boards 3 times, I must pass this time. Open to any and all encouraging and positive feedback.

Mthood :rotfl:

Mthood we are in the same boat. I graduated in 1997 and only worked in the field for 6 months about 3 years ago. I had a 4.0 grade average. For my nclex I didn't even look in my own notes or own textbooks from college. I bought Mosby's Comprehensive NCLEX review as well as Saunders. Saunders I found more useful because there are rationales that help you visualize. CD's with review questions in them came with both texts. I've heard Kaplan is good as well.

[goldenboy]

A jewish patient has just died. He is in the room. What should the nurse prepare to do:

a: Have the priest prepare to anoint the patient with oil.

b: Cover him with a white sheet.

c: One of the family members will want to bathe them.

d: prepare to have the body removed within 2 hours.

Jewish people do not have priests. They are rabbi's. They don't even want priest's in the room (something like the spirits from the dead body could enter the priest...I looked up some info on the internet when I got home for this question. They also do not want any non-Jewish people in the room period for the simple fact that they consider the person defenseless therefore it is a good possibility that a family member will want to bathe them once they are dead. They also want the body cremated ASAP or sent to the morgue from this one site I got an answer from.

Reply taken from the following web site:

http://www.shemayisrael.com/burial/needs.htm

VII. Death, Miscarriages, and Amputations

While in many other areas, the religious Jew will attempt to be forgiving if his needs cannot be met, the time of death carries with it the most emotion-laden and eternal ramifications. Therefore, it is imperative that these directives be carried out with the utmost of expediency and accuracy.

The body of the Jewish patient is sacrosanct. Only his Orthodox religious co-religionists may touch it. Therefore, it is most important that timely notification occur to the patient's family or if they are unavailable or unreachable, the Hebrew Free Burial Society can be reached 24 hours a day at [phone] as can the Chevrah Kaddishah (Holy Burial Society) of Queens at (718)-849-9700.

All body fluids, whether in tubing, gauze bandages, or linens are considered part of the body and to be buried with it. Pending the arrival of the family or Burial Society, no one should move or touch the body. All indwelling tubes, intravascular catheters, and drains should remain undisturbed in situ following death. Drains can be similarly sealed and taped to the patient's body. In the interest of safety, we urge that draining venipucture sites and indwelling catheters or needles be covered with a gauze bandage and sealed by tape. Drains and intravascular catheters should be ligated or knotted before they are covered and taped. Care should be taken that all bandages, linens and tubings that are soiled with body fluids accompany the deceased. 1. If a death occurs on the Sabbath, co-religionists will will not be able to attend to the body until Saturday night. It should be removed to the morgue with all bandaging tubing, and linens intact.

Upon arrival of the family of Burial Society, a request will most likely be made to allow a Guardian to stay with the body. Every effort should be made to allow this, if at all possible in the patient's room, or it not, even in the morgue.

Autopsies are considered in the highest form of insult to the deceased and can only be performed under suspicion of foul play, and even then only after consultation with a competent Orthodox rabbi. Please consult Pastoral Counseling for a list of telephone numbers or call our Hot Line at 494-4343.

Miscarried or aborted fetuses which possess a human form are treated precisely as described above. Other tissues and fluids occurring during miscarriage or abortion may be disposed of as the hospital sees fit.

Amputated limbs require burial. Cremation or any other form of disposal are unacceptable.

" I am not sure but I would disagree with you on your answer. The last answer seems to be more correct." goldenboy