Therapy & Section P

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I have a question regarding section P1b. Can O.T. & P.T. claim the same days Do I have to choose which therapy will be able to claim that day? I know I can claim all the minutes they both work with a patient. For example: a patient is admitted on the 22nd. P.T. & O.T. both eval & work with that patient on the 22nd. P.T. for 35 min, O.T. for 25 min. On the 25th & 26th, P.T. works with the patient 50 minutes each day. O.T. works with the patient on the 25th for 50 minutes. How many days can be claimed by each under the days? Do I put O.T. for 2 days and P.T for 3 days, or do I put O.T. for 1 day and P. T for 2 days? I know I can claim all the minutes they work with the patient, except for eval. time

Please help,

Thanks!!!:banghead:

Specializes in ER CCU MICU SICU LTC/SNF.

When you say both therapists "eval and work" on the 22nd, PT=35 mins OT=25 mins, do you mean they evaluated the resident and began therapy rx? Or, were these entire minutes solely an evaluation to determine the resident's capability?

If they commenced treatment after the eval, the actual "treatment" minutes should be no less than 15 mins in order to capture it as a therapy day.

I would assume the event on the 22nd were merely an evaluation. Thus, OT = 1, PT = 2.

Hi--I think your basic question is whether or not a therapy can "claim" each day that the patient receives therapy for 15 or more minutes; if so, the answer is YES.

If SLT, PT, and OT each treat the same patient for 30 minutes each day for the past 6 days--the 22nd, 23rd, 24th, 25th, 26th, and 27th--and the ARD is the 27th, each would record 6 days, 180 minutes, total of 540 minutes.

If SLT only treated for 10 minutes on the 22nd, SLT days would be 5--minutes would be 120.

Hope this helps!

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