MD, DO, NP, DC, OD -- Who deserves the title Physician?

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our professional scope of practice asserts that our role is to assess, diagnose, and treat in health and illness.

from assessing, diagnosing, treating - diabetes, thrombosis, heart disease, infection, emphysema, hep c, hiv, etc, to rendering prenatal care, and preventative care - we are primary care providers. we make life and death decisions each day with our patients in managing disease - thrombosis management and prevention; hep c management; hiv management, heart disease and cva management; women's health - yet we are given less legitimacy in the social security act and cms section 410.20 than a chiropractor or optometrist.

i have nothing against chiropractic physicians mind you, but take a look at chiropractic.

cannot prescribe - not even an aspirin

procedures? - scant more than "moist heat";

assessment - can't even look into your ear according to their scope of practice

educational requirements? - a bachelors degree?, nope - about a year and a half of college study (90 credits), a 2.5 gpa, and 3 yrs of study at a chiropractic school.

how do chiropractors see themselves? go to http://schools.naturalhealers.com/lifewest/

chiropractic is a total-body healthcare system, and not a method of pain management. as a gatekeeper for direct access to the health delivery system, the responsibilities of the doctor of chiropractic as a primary care clinician include wellness promotion, health assessment, diagnosis, and the chiropractic management of the patient's health care needs. when indicated, the doctor of chiropractic may also co-manage, consult with, or refer to other health care providers

optometry - about the same. 65 college credit hours (a year and change), 2.5 gpa, a 4 yr program. -- then - slit lamp, snellen, better or worse, eyeglasses or contacts? see you in two years.

that's all fine. but, here's the rub. the chiropractor and optometrist - according to section 1861®(1) of the ssa,and cms sec. 410.20 -- are designated a physician with all of the privileges and honors of that professional designation.

the apn? nope. even though our scope of practice is much, much broader; our responsibility and liability - far greater. yet we are still treated as hand-maids, and put in our place as second class providers - the extenders, the mid-levels. none of us treat mid-way; perform half of a procedure; help the patient heal only half the way through a disease.

does any other primary care provider treat heart disease more or differently than you as a provider treat heart disease? does the physician carry more responsibility or liability? no. a pcp is a pcp. and god bless all of us, md, do, apn.

there is no comparison.the nurse practitioner's contribution to the health of our nation is every bit as important as the md, or do, and far above that of the dc or od. in the clinic we shoulder the responsibilities and liabilities - every one of our actions or inactions as a provider -- every moment we spend with a patient is legally ours to bear alone....

yet how many times have you been told - sorry, we need a physicians signature on that... you can't order that - it has to be ordered by a physician. we can't send that to you - we have to send it to the physician. sorry, we only credential physicians.

am i the only apn that feels a little bewildered and disgusted by this?

i have no innate yearning or desire to be called a physician mind you, its not an ego thing. but what i do have is a desire for, is to be respected for my role as a primary care provider by hospitals, insurers, labs, etc, so that i can do my job.

why i'm writing this.

as health care and our roles evolve, i believe that it is our responsibility to lobby for the advancement of our professional role, and with that updates to the ssa and cms sec. 410.20, two of the main documents that define the apn to other professionals. this is critical so that other professionals will not be confused about our role, our education, our abilities, and our responsibilities to our patients.

we regularly talk about fighting battles in my home state of tennessee, but are we only treating the symptoms of our professional legislative, political, and administrative woes? - shouldn't we also be addressing the root problems from which most of these arise - such as our absence from ssa 1861®(1)and cms sec. 410.20.

it may be time for each individual apn to write, call, or otherwise encourage other apn's as well as our advocates at ana, and our legislators to argue in favor of apn pcp's inclusion in cms sec. 410.20 and ssa 1861®(1).

because as the role of the nurse practitioner continues to evolve in response to changing societal and health care needs, so should the ssa and other government acts that define us to the nation.

social security act 1861

http://www.ssa.gov/op_home/ssact/title18/1861.htm

so. if you agree, take a moment and write someone. don't sit back and do nothing. :rotfl:change happens because of you. :) write a short note to your local chapter of ana, the national ana, george bush, your senators and your representatives and voice your desire for an updated cms sec. 410.20 and ssa 1861®(1) to help apn's across the nation do their job. thanks gang. http://www.firstgov.gov/contact/elected.shtml

respectfully,

r. martin

family nurse practitioner, chief manager and primary care provider

campbell station primary care associates

11541 kingston pike, ste 101

knoxville, tn 37922

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I don't have a problem with a doctorally prepared NP, PT, RPH, whatever being called "doctor". I would have a problem with them being called, "physician." If CNA, LPN, RN calls themselves, "NP," and they are not an NP, that is illegal just as it is if I call myself a physician. I realize that people seem to think that, "doctor," is synonomous with,"physician," and that no one else should be addressed as such. Tell that to all the other doctorally prepared individuals who have earned their degrees.

We need to educate our patients regarding our roles and titles. PT, OT, RPH, etc. are all moving to doctoral preparation for entry level practice. More room for confusion, more need for clarification and education. If someone calls me, " DR. A", I correct them. If they call me a PA, I correct them. That said, I doubt that I would use the title of,'doctor,' if I did complete a doctoral program. I introduce myself by my full name and explain that I am the NP from Psychiatry.

I don't have a problem with a doctorally prepared NP, PT, RPH, whatever being called "doctor". ...............................More room for confusion, more need for clarification and education. If someone calls me, " DR. A", I correct them. If they call me a PA, I correct them. That said, I doubt that I would use the title of,'doctor,' if I did complete a doctoral program. I introduce myself by my full name and explain that I am the NP from Psychiatry.

I don't have a big problem with it either. Most people need some humor injected into their everyday life. If a nurse wants to introduce themselves as a "doctor" it gives the rest of us a reason to laugh.:jester:

Your last paragraph is perfect. If someone earns a doctorate it is quite an achievement, but that achievement shouldn't be used to confuse patients just to stoke their ego.

I realize the need for recognition; however, no matter what area of healthcare you choose to practice in, each area has value. And anyone that decides to take on the role of "healthcare provider" needs make it a point to continue learning - and that includes from each other. If you ever find yourself thinking that you know more than the person that's standing next to you (whether MD, DO, DC, PharmD, RN, NP, RT, etc.) it might be time for a change in your professional life. I'm just saying...

(pride and conceit do not belong in healthcare!!!)

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