lunch time insubordination

[nurseulove]

i am a young charge nurse in a facility... everytime i ask them to do something like one example...

i was dcing a pt. pt ask if someone could help them go to the car.. i asked my cna to help them to the car she said no im busy while just standing in the hall way saying shes waiting for the pt to finish up in the bathroom is this right? and sometimes in lunch time they come back from lunch early and just ask them to assist a resident and they tell me their on lunch.. i mean wth?? a resident needs help... is that an excuse to not help them?

[Price 2002]

just to throw in my .....

i am a nursing student but also a stna, same as a cna here in ohio, and if i was the aide that was asked to assist a patient to the car while i was waiting for another patient to finish in the bathroom i would have nicely told the nurse that i would be happy to help the patient to the car as soon as i finish helping the patient that i am currently with. that is the safest and most respectful way to handle the situation if there was no way the nurse could have helped either patient. we all get busy...

[color=#00bfff]as far as asking someone to work during a break it really depends on the situation. i know that it is against labor laws but as long as the aide's break time is made up and there was no other option but to ask the aide to clock back in then i guess it is okay. but as an aide i have always stayed off the floor to avoid these sorts of things during my break. that was just my way of handling it...

[SunnyAndrsn]

no, i disagree. there is a liability issue involved with performing any patient care, even transporting, off the clock.

"i beg to differ. even if one is not on the clock and the person in the bathroom was ok, the cna should have at least helped or found other help for the rn. that is why they are called "nursing assistants" to help the nurse. "

they are called nursing assistants because they assist the patient, in my opinion. they are not there to assist me and they do not work for me. they work for the patient, as do i.

[Sisukas]

I wasn't implying that the CNA was expected to work off the clock. I was saying that the CNA is working to help the patient, and trying not to say that I didn't care for the attitude I read in that post.