Is this unethical or no?

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by Mursty Mursty, BSN (New) New

So an administrator told a psychotic patient(I work in psych) that they would fire staff for how the patient was "treated."  The patient in question actually disclosed this to staff.  Also, this particular administrator was overheard giving the same patient her business card and stating "if anyone puts their hands on you, call me.  No one should put their hands on you. " Negating the fact that manual holds and takedowns are needed for combative patients and telling a delusional/psychotic and violent  patient this can further endanger staff.  I'm just wondering if this is unethical and furthermore, reportable. #nurselife

Davey Do

Specializes in Psych (25 years), Medical (15 years). Has 43 years experience. 1 Article; 9,816 Posts

No, Musty, not ethically or morally wrong, just some really bad management practice that can cause a lot of staff discord, power playing, and not end well.

There was a similar situation with a psych director that I experienced years ago- a lot of hoop deedo  were she wanted an incident form filled out for ANY hands on with a patient.

Luckily, her want did not come into being and her time as a director was relatively short-lived.

Here's hoping this administrator's time is limited also!

 

Mursty

Mursty, BSN

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1 hour ago, Davey Do said:

No, Musty, not ethically or morally wrong, just some really bad management practice that can cause a lot of staff discord, power playing, and not end well.

There was a similar situation with a psych director that I experienced years ago- a lot of hoop deedo  were she wanted an incident form filled out for ANY hands on with a patient.

Luckily, her want did not come into being and her time as a director was relatively short-lived.

Here's hoping this administrator's time is limited also!

 

What got her time cut short if you don't mind my asking? And thanks for replying. 

Davey Do

Specializes in Psych (25 years), Medical (15 years). Has 43 years experience. 1 Article; 9,816 Posts

You're welcome, Musty. It's enjoyable to recall the good ol' days and not have to deal with them.

To answer your question, I believe short term administrators were the norm for Wrongway Regional Medical Center. The first administrator called Wrongway "The Hospital in D' 'Hood" and the company who owned it may have used it as a proving ground.

It wasn't always the case, however. For example, the director who was in position when I was terminated from Wrongway has, as I've been told, "walked out of the building by Security". 

The staff member who informed me said it was due to incompetence. So, for one reason or another, administrators don't last long at Wrongway.

If you could keep us up on your situation, it would be interesting, if not enlightening, Musty.