Good Bye to Nursing for me... - page 6
Well, the start of a new year and I'm kissing nursing good bye after only 5 short months. I graduated in may and started at a hospital in august. My very first preceptor was a nightmare, on my... Read More
Jan 2, '07Joined: Oct '06; Posts: 823; Likes: 849Quote from healer27Healer, It seems that preceptors from hell are the norm in nursing - believe me, you're not alone. The first year out of school is hard, no matter where you are; it's nice to have a nice preceptor (I think are are some ), but most of us have suffered.Well, once again I have the preceptor from hell not only that but the managers In my opinion are nitpickers.
It's sad, and even sadder that nurses like you are already quitting before ever getting established in the profession. You went to nursing school for a reason, and I think it would be a mistake to totally write off nursing after such a short time. However, you have a wonderful reason to take a break and later reconsider (congrats!)
Best of luck to you (whatever you decide),
P.S. I'm currently in orientation and my preceptor can be pretty b----y at times; however, after 8 years as a nurse I won't let it get to me anymore. Soon I'll be on my own and won't have to deal with it
Jan 2, '07Joined: Feb '06; Posts: 391; Likes: 68Quote from TheCommuterI concur- it would be such a great loss to you personally if you didn't use your education. You should and could try a doctors office, they have normal hours, you will get holidays off, and you wn't be working nights. You might even be able to get "weekends" only or something like that.Congratulations on the pregnancy!
Further on down the line, it would be wise if you simply gave yourself another chance in the field of nursing. Don't throw all of your education and efforts to waste because of some stress and a few crappy preceptors who didn't believe in you.
You will succeed as a nurse if you find the inner strength and believe in yourself.
Please consider it.
And screw those pit of vipers who tripped you up as you were just comming out of it. Surely, if it were ALL bad, you would have given up when you were in clinicals.
You can do it!
Jan 2, '07Occupation: Family Nurse Practitioner Specialty: 19 year(s) of experience in holistic health, integrated medicine ; From: US ; Joined: Jun '06; Posts: 113; Likes: 143There are a lot of other jobs for nurses, besides working in the hospital. What about school nursing??? Day jobs, desk jobs, etc. I know they SAY that you have to work a year in med surg first, but that is not always the case. I didn't work in a hospital my first ten years of nursing. Then, I did it more for the money, but I actually did like it (still do, at times). Don't give up your credentials. Congrats on the bambino.
Jan 2, '07Occupation: LPN Specialty: 1 year(s) of experience in Geriatrics/Family Practice ; Joined: Jan '06; Posts: 500; Likes: 334I was just reading this and I too am a recent graduate. I graduated as a LPN in June 2006. Prior to being a nurse I worked in a hospital pharmacy. I had a lot of responsibilities. I made all the ICU, CCU, NICU, PICU drugs. I did orals and injectables (epidurals, TPN's, hyperal's). The responsibility was huge, but nothing compared to nursing. In pharmacy they were allowed appropriate staffing. I had sufficient time to make each of my drugs. We were hardly ever short staffed and I hardly ever felt truly overwhelmed. But now that I'm in nursing, it's a whole new ballgame. Even though we are the ones to administer the drugs, we are worked so short that errors are bound to happen. We have to deal with our patients, their family's, our boss', our coworkers and doctors and somehow keep our sanity. Why is it when I talk to anyone outside of the nursing profession they love their job and only occassionally feeled overwhelmed. As nurses most of them are so stressed out their ready to call it quits. I presently am an LPN and was seriously considering bridging to the RN, but due to the shortage and then the increased liability, I don't think that is something I will ever do or if so, no time soon. This may anger some people but it is not intended too. We (most) nurses go into nursing because they came from some type of dysfunction in their childhood, so they want to take care of people and feel that we are making a difference. But why in the world do we go into a profession where we are overworked, underpaid, no appreciated, have noone on our side, and ultimately are expected to act above human standards? I'm trying to figure it out??????? I thoroughly love people and have always wanted to be a nurse, but what a rude awakening. I am only human and I am only one person. Yes I realized one person can make a difference but no when you're fighting money and politics.
Jan 2, '07Occupation: retired Joined: Aug '05; Posts: 1My nursing experiences after graduation were a lot like healer27's- I took a preceptorship in a teaching hospital's ICU right after graduation, and I was 50 at that time! After being a mental health counselor and later an administrator, becoming a nurse was a lifetime dream that soon became a nightmare. I had never worked in a hospital but was expected to automatically know how to draw blood, and my preceptor yelled at me when I said I didn't know how. It just went downhill from there. But I stuck it out there for a year and then went to work in an administrative position in LTC. I did that in three states for the next five years, and once right after we moved( my husband moves around in his job) I went to a med/surg floor for a couple of months. I left because of the constant floating to other units where they treated me VERY badly. I tell people there is a nursing shortage because no-one in their right mind would work in the conditions nurses are asked to, especially in a hospital. Our governing bodies (like the ANA) do little to help us, we have no meaningful union for collective bargaining and the Boards of Nursing cave to every request of short-sighted politicians. I can't understand how teachers have a strong union and we have nothing.I am retired now, and have terrible back problems from the heavy lifting I did, with no recourse to any one place to blame for it. I keep my license up because you never know, I might need a job one day. So I would advise anyone to keep up your license and if you want to, try another area of nursing. Or be the hero we need and organise us!
Jan 3, '07Joined: Jul '02; Posts: 14; Likes: 3It sounds like you've had a difficult time, but my eye is mainly caught by the part where you say you were moved to another floor, found a preceptor who was great, they wanted you to work evenings, you left. The first year of nursing is often less than ideal in terms of scheduling; a lot of us worked nights and every holiday in the first year out. It's lovely when you can hold out for something more convenient; flip side is, SOMEBODY has to work those shifts; it's the nature of the job.
The fact that you don't necessarily have to work and that your husband can support the family seems to have informed your decision making. You'd be surprised at what you can tolerate (and later be happy that you put up with it and found a way to overcome it) when you have to earn a living.
There's a spiritual axiom I learned a long time ago that goes like this: "Whever I am disturbed, whatever may seem to its cause, there is something wrong in me and not in my external conditions." When I first read that, my reaction was to sputter, "BUT...". How can it be? It's obvious the other guy is the bad guy. Okay, do I want to be right, or do I want to be happy? There is actually a lot of power in saying that it's your own fault--you can't CHANGE the other guy, but you have the power to change yourself. And when you change yourself, inevitably, the situation changes; the other guy often changes, too. Sometimes the only change you make in yourself is not to let them get to you. Other times, when feeling attacked, I'll pick out the thread of truth in someone's attack--their criticism of me that I know might be valid--and I work on fixing that part of myself.
Somebody told me, "Anytime you're pointing your finger at someone, over what they've done, look at your hand and notice that there are three more fingers pointing back at you."
I hope this doesn't sound unduly harsh, because that's not the way I intend it. I'm just sharing some ideas that have really worked for me. I absolutely love nursing--it continues to challenge and frustrate and enlighten me and even when I'm just shoveling sand against the tide, I feel like what we're doing is meaningful.
Nurses ARE first-class whiners. It reminds me of parents complaining about their kids--but hey, just because they drive you crazy doesn't mean you don't love them. We reserve the right to complain!
Jan 3, '07Joined: Sep '05; Posts: 12; Likes: 1
Hi there :spin:
First, Happy New Year and congrats on your new baby .
I have had a very similar experience to yours. I have been working on a busy med/surg telemetry/neurology floor and I am so tired of nursing. It is so much work and people can be so mean & rude, including some RNs.
I left my med/surg job at the end of 2006 - that was MY xmas gift I was getting paid a lot of money but I decided to quit and do what makes me happy because at the end of the days, that's MOST IMPORTANT. Additionally, I left because I was put in a tough spot to choose between taking care of my family versus work. I chose what mattered most, MY FAMILY. Now, I will work part-time as a RN and have opened up my own business.
Just some advice since I have been in your shoes, do what makes YOU happy and take care of your new family because that's priority.
Take care and nursing has a lot of different specialties so dont give up, ok.
Good luck to you!!!
Quote from healer27Well, the start of a new year and I'm kissing nursing
good bye after only 5 short months. I graduated in may and started at a hospital in august. My very first preceptor was a nightmare, on my 3rd day on the floor she said I was too slow and put me down in front of other
nurses or whoever was in distance of hearing her. At one
point she even said, "well, I have her she know's nothing I have to show her everything." So being enthusiastic I decided NOT to let it get to me and proceeded to take her C*ap for another couple of weeks. At which time I was moved to a different floor with a preceptor who was great and I learned alot from. PRoblem was at this hospital IF
I wanted to stay I'd have to take a evening position. SO I left a found a hosptial closer to home on days. Well, once again I have the preceptor from hell not only that but the managers In my opinion are nitpickers. ON my first day on the floor they wrote up a nurse who was in charge of making sure all the phones were back at the end of the day, for not having a phone returned. (someone took one home accidentally).. I found this ridiculous, it's a busy med/surg floor with an 8:1 patient ratio and they are worried about PHONES???? I could go on and on about the other horrors but it would be to long.
Long story short I've decide to quit. Luckily I don't NEED the job to support myself or I wouldn't be able to leave. my hubby makes a decent salary. I do feel bad placing all the financial burden on him but I'm planning on just picking up a admin position somewhere. I don't care if I'm making half the money I jsut want to be happy. I'm so SICK of being stressed going into work, stressed coming home, worrying about this, being stressed on the floor. To me its just not worth it. My hubby is worried that I'll change my mind and want to come back to nursing but won't be able to after leaving 2 prior positions. bUt seriously I can't imagine feeling this way.
I also just found out I'm expecting my first child and I really can't imagine the stress level as well as not eating/drinking/peeing an entire shift is good. So I'm gone. I give up, I give in, I just feel like I can't do it. I'm thinking I'm just not meant to be in nursing, or i woudn't have just kept inheriting bad circumstances and preceptors from hell.
Well, I'd love to hear if anyone else has left nursing? come back and any other thoughts you all might have.
Hope this is a good new year for all.
Jan 3, '07Occupation: RN, ER Case management, precertification. Specialty: ICU-Stepdown ; Joined: Dec '02; Posts: 862; Likes: 53kstec-
I'm not sure I agree with the 'dysfunction' rationale, but oddly enough, I'm not sure I dissagree with it either (yeah, figure THAT one out! )
I CAN answer part of the question however -as to why we enter a field where we are destined to be over-worked (and if pay=responsibility+risk, then we truly ARE underpaid since our responsibilities are great, and the risk to our health AND licensure are also great) and have to battle short staffing and a host of other issues JUST TO WORK. I say its because somewhere down the pipe, we like the challenge -or if not like, then need the challenge. Many people cannot handle the stresses involved in our field -hell, I'm not always sure >I< can handle it, and I know my colleagues feel the same way (this last year our floor has had a %30 to %40 turnover, and we aren't that big. Our staffing is 6 nurses per shift, plus ancillary staff (of which those of us on nights end up doing without -its a rare night that we have any techs or even a unit secretary (we call 'em unit coordinators and the title is more than apt -things DEFINATELY run smoother with them than without them) and though we should, we do not have a telemetry tech at all on either shift -since all of our patients are telemetry (hardwired with monitors at the bedside AND at the nurses station) and a good many of 'em are ventilated and in isolation -we are told to just 'look at the monitors as you pass the nurses station' (and the UC is generally NOT telemetry-certified). We have all been waiting for the time when nobody notices that someone just tanked -and we pray it wont be 'our' patient when it does happen. For a floor that is listed as 'critical care' (though our patients tend to be 'guarded' to 'somewhat stable') I must say that THIS alone is a source of great stress. Its literally gambling.
For my part, I do try to lessen my stress by putting my most critical patient on the split-screen monitor if I'm going to be in another patients' room for any length of time (its a nice tool, splitting the screen, but since the name of the patient is on the monitor, it would open up a whole other can of worms where hippa is concerned -so one must make sure to remember to change the screen back before one leaves the room).
I'll say it again. For whatever reason, we MUST like the challenge.
Jan 3, '07Joined: Aug '06; Posts: 287; Likes: 51Quote from lupinSo you worked for an agency as a new nurse? Did you find this difficult? A friend I graduated with in May is working for an agency and she LOVES it! She had experience on a med-surg unit as a student nurse before graduating.Healer27:
I am so sorry you have been exposed to the underside of nursing. There's a saying, "Nurses eat their young." I too was given a hard time when I first became a nurse. I got a job two weeks before graduation at a local nursing home and I quit within 30 days. When I did quit I told the DON (the third DON in that thirty day period) exactly what had caused me to leave. Not two weeks later a narc book went missing and they HARASSED me for an entire month wanting to know where it was. I hadn't even been the last person to have it, the pharmacy tech who wasted the narcs and my supervisor had been. Finally the state board of nursing called to follow up on it because they had made a suprise inspection two days after I left. When I told them about the harassment, they stated I was not the only nurse that that facility had done this to and I lodged a complaint then and there. A few months later I found out from a friend who was an aide there that they had lost their rehab and skilled certification becuase of all the problems and it turned out my supervisor had "accidentally" taken the book home to "fix some count problems".
By that time I was hired with a wonderful agency that sent me to assisted living and skilled rehab homes. I would work a few days at one facility and then the next week it was on to the next place. I just went in, did my work, and didn't have to really deal with any problems at whatever facility I was at. It helped me learn prioritizing, flexibility, and how to avoid a lot of conflict with staff. Several facilities asked for me personally and one of the DONs wrote a letter of recommendation for me when I moved to another state.
My advice is to take some time with your pregnancy and if you need to work and keep your license up to date, look at working with an agency. Many of them guarantee only a certain amount of hours and you pretty much make your own schedule. At the very least, get a subscription to a . They sometimes have mail-in credits for education and information for classes in your area.
If you still find yourself leaving nursing, then good luck to you. May you have a safe and wonderful pregnancy.:spin:
Jan 4, '07Occupation: RN on spine center Specialty: ER/Nuero/PHN/LTC/Skilled/Alzheimer's ; Joined: Jul '04; Posts: 157; Likes: 113IncublissRN:
I had a year's experience as an LPN before I finished my RN so I had a bit of nursing experience under my belt before graduation. I found it hard at first to be dropped into a new facility where no one knew me and I usually got the worst resident assignments the first couple of times to a new facility. I definitely learned how to prioritize and be flexible and how to effectively delegate, something a lot of graduates have problems with. But I had a certain measure of say-so in when and where I worked. If I didn't like a place, I didn't have to go back. If I wanted weekends off, I could arrange my schedule so that I would have them off.
After a few times of going to the same facility, I actually had DONs asking my agency for me specifically and the regular staff would lighten up a bit. In their defense, I had run into some agency nurses who would play the "I'm new here so my mistakes don't count" or those who sat around and didn't help the regular staff because "I'm not regular staff so they can't fire me". As agency you usually make a lot more than regular staff does and they know it so not pulling your weight or making a lot of mistakes makes them really mad. I don't blame them but as soon as they realized I didn't do that they would chill out some. Just whenever signing up with an agency, research it first. Some of the nation wide ones are not the greatest to sign up for. My agency was privately owned and run by two former DONs and that made a big difference I feel. I was just really naive and luckily got in with a good group of people.
Hope that was helpful.
Jan 4, '07Occupation: RN on spine center Specialty: ER/Nuero/PHN/LTC/Skilled/Alzheimer's ; Joined: Jul '04; Posts: 157; Likes: 113Healer27:
Some of the doctor's offices I applied to said that they didn't hire brand new nurses, they hired those that had some experience. Also, a lot of doctor's offices hire LPNs or MAs because they can do a lot of the same things and they don't have to pay them as much as an RN.
Then again hospital will hire new grads and put them right out on the floor with barely any orientation so I really don't understand that mentality. Doctor's offices are not usually as acute as hospital pts and hey we all have to learn somewhere right?
Just don't be suprised if the pay is lower than that of bedside nursing. I asked for 16-18 dollars an hour at an interview and was told I was out of my mind for that.
Jan 4, '07Occupation: Nursing student Joined: Mar '06; Posts: 796; Likes: 142I have read all 8 pages of messages here. I agree with one of the posters... that we do this because it's a challenge. I think that's right on target. I, myself, love challenges and the opportunity to help. I heard once that being a healthcare worker is like being an auto mechanic. They fix and tend to cars, we care and fix people. It's a huge responsibility and with that comes stress and insanity, but I guess.. we need the challenge... the challenge to make someone better. We help people. That's our job. Yes... a challenge indeed.
I am leaving my first career behind (Media) to dive into Nursing. Media was very fast-paced. There was no real forgiveness for error either and the "powers that be" at the top could be cruel. Ratings or circulation was down... people were cut. Gone. I saw folks with 25 years exp. gone like that. They put in 12 hour days to get a story out..... work through the night. These were hard working people. They had families to support. As journalists and reporters, WHERE would they work?? It's not like there is a TV station or newspaper right down the street. I pulled nights, weekends, holidays too. So with all these posts about the "pitfalls" of Nursing, I think I will be somewhat prepared as I can see some correlations b/t the two fields. You'll run into morons in any field, maybe moreso in Nursing, but I have already dealt with many in Media... the "I am the top anchor" personality "Bring my coffee and make-up bag to the set"... to "this is how you operate a tape machine"... please... to phone calls with "my house is burning down!!!" and I have to send out a crew as I am running down the hall with them carrying a map and microphone in hand....from the posts above I can see where Nursing may have some of the same similar dynamics. BUT thank goodness there are a lot of avenues to explore in nursing, the pay is good and in my area there are many jobs available. I studied Biology Pre Med in college also and was going to go into the health field initally, but ventured into broadcasting. Wish me luck this time around !!! E :selfbonk:
Jan 4, '07Occupation: RN, ER Case management, precertification. Specialty: ICU-Stepdown ; Joined: Dec '02; Posts: 862; Likes: 53Well, I'll say that nursing will give you another pair of advantages -odds are great you won't get canned because of 'slow seasons' -though some facilities participate in call-outs. The other part is that if you leave or are forced out, there are plenty of other positions just down the road