7 years to become an RN in California - page 2
I am a licensed LVN in California with only a few month of experience in infant recovery care. I recently inquired with various CA junior colleges who offer an LVN to RN "advanced placement... Read More
Sep 26, '06First of all......why would anyone get an ADN instead of a BSN? Seriously. By the time you get all your pre-reqs and general education requirements out of the way, you have most likely spent four years in school. Four years at school in any other program gets you a Bachelor's degree. For a few more theory classes you get increased job opportunites, hirability, and advancement opportunities. Plus, I really do believe that nursing theory has a vital place in nursing education and that ADN prepared nurses may miss out on it (not that you can't get it elsewhere, but when do you have the time if not in school).
I'm also an advocate for education as a method to increase the status of our profession. I think we would be taken more seriously if a Bachelor degree was the minimum requirement. Just my two cents though.
As for paying for school and getting in. I applied to 5 schools and got into three on my first try. The more you apply to, the better your odds. If you are financially needy there is money available for nursing students pursuing all levels of education. Particularly if you are willing to commit to working for two years in a medically underserved area (which is almost everywhere I found).
My pre-reqs took 2 years, but I already had a BA. I'm now in a Master's Entry program that I just LOVE. The quality of the education is phenomenal! But I really respect Junior Colleges as well. The JC where I got my pre-reqs prepared me very well for pathophysiology and pharmacology.
Good luck, and go for that BSN (you deserve it).
Sep 26, '06To the original poster, if you want to do it cheaply, take the prereqs over 3 semesters at night, apply to the programs, then take all the other courses while you continue to work and wait on the list (speech, lifespan development, math, pharmacology, dosage calculations, English, American Cultures, etc.). Then do the last 2 semesters of the RN program.
BSN is the way to go if you can, but not everyone can. It means going to school full-time for 4 (sometimes 5) years, not 2. If you do not have a bachelor's degree in something else yet, I'd look into it, as those "opportunity costs" someone mentioned (i.e., the differential between your LVN earnings and your future RN earnings) may make an extra couple years of full-time school worthwhile.
For many of us second career RNs, though, the cheap, slow ADN track is just right. I didn't waste my waiting list years, I worked and had babies. I have a bachelor's degree and cannot get anything but loans as financial aid, and nowhere near the amounts I need. At least at a CC I get a fee waiver and a small loan, and I can work to make ends meet. I wouldn't be able to do that in an accelerated BSN or direct entry MSN. My goal is to become an RN, start working, then start on my BSN through work/online after 1 year of working full-time. I really like nursing, and I want to get into the field as quickly as possible. The MSN can wait until my 6 kids are at least in high school...
Sep 26, '06I live in Los Angeles and its not true here. If you have your LVN license and have completed the prerequisites you can enter the 3rd semester of the RN program with no wait. The two to three year waiting list applies to first semester RN students. By the time the third semester comes around many RN students have flunked out. This leaves openings for LVN's to join. There are also some community colleges in Los Angeles without waiting lists for the RN programs.
Sep 27, '06I got into the RN program one year after graduating from LVN school. I graduated May 2005, took microbiology, took a semester off to get some money together and started the RN program August 2006.
And for those that wonder why anyone would take the ADN path rather than the BSN route. I was broke, divorced, my mother couldn't help me because she only works four hours a day so she can care for my grandmother and the closest University is over an hour away. Simply put, I had bills to pay (financial aid may pay for school and on-campus living but isn't paying for my grandmothers medication, my truck payment and health insurance), family to take care who have no one else to depend on and I was on a short time frame.
Sep 27, '06Quote from wildmountainchildBecause, as already stated, many of us have financial or family commitments that we cannot get out of. I'm also divorced, I've got car payments, outstanding loans. Getting a BSN is starting to look REALLY difficult. I simply can no longer afford to "not work" for 4 years.First of all......why would anyone get an ADN instead of a BSN? .....
Quote from puresassHuh? I have a BFA, returned to school 5 years later and took out loans to take pre-med science classes. Once you have a degree, you are eligible for only loans, and you must be in a degree-seeking program. But you can get money to pay for school post bachelors. I have no idea where this came from, but it's not correct.for those with a BA/BS in another field, you don't get financial aid when you go back to school afterwards unless it's for grad school & i can't afford to pay for another BS all by myself, so i'm going for my ASN since it's cheaper (by $300-$400/unit).
Sep 27, '06Originally Posted by Quickbeam
This is true...aid really becomes non-existent once you have a bachelor's in anything and want to get a different one. I did find it was cheaper for me to go to an accelerated BSN program than it would have been for me to go ADN, taking into account opportunity costs.That certainly wasn't true for me -- just the opposite in fact. I was ineligible for federal funds but I got a need-based Board of Governor's fee waiver from the State of California community colleges for my tuition in spite of a previous B.A. Why? Because ADN is considered job training.
I'm glad things are more open now. My experience was 20 years ago.