Published Feb 28, 2007
ADN2003
31 Posts
hi everyone out there, I need an answer to this problem which is threatening to split the unit in half. We are a med-surg unit and an oncology pt with a plt of 5k was brought in with orders to transfuse2 units plts and 2 units PRBC, when night shift came 1830-0700, he hadnt rec'd his plt nor PRBC, his temp at this time was 101.5, md was notified, gave orders to transfuse when temp is below 100, all night pt's temp stayed above 100 even with the administration of tylenol ES as ordered. Did l mention that pt came on the unit with an order to premedicate with regular tylenol and benadryl before transfusion. What would any of you oncology nurses have done with this pt? Thanks for any help you provide.
debbieGa
59 Posts
I am a peds heme/onc nurse and on our floor we would have transfused. We would have looked for other s/s of transfusion reactions. With a platelet count of 5 I would have been worried about that. Did the pt have any s/s of bleeding? Has the pt had blood products before, if so have they had a reaction? (if it was their first time I might have not transfused). Also were they in for fever/neut. Where in their nadir are they?
he was in for neut, wasnt feverish when he came in but started running a temp that evening, remember this is a med-surg floor.
HemeNP, MSN, RN, NP
29 Posts
this is a case of febrile neutropenia and pancytopenia maybe coz platelets are down and needed prbc transfusion. pancultures should have been done already and a chest xray as well. identify obvious foci of infection. going back to the question, sometimes the fever doesn't go below 100. I would have called the MD again and inform him about px status. He might have assumed that the fever will go down after the tylenol. Where I work, we would have transfused the pt after all the cultures were done and antibiotics given ASAP (esp for febrile neutropenia).
Thanks you guys for your thoughful response. I appreciate it.
littleredmare
33 Posts
First things that come to mind...with plt of 5 k, pt prob needed the plt asap. take temp, clarify with MD team if ok to transfuse with temp of 100, then get order for ok to transfuse to cya. Was pt on tylenol and still had fever of 100? (not a huge fever) had pt had chemo, when is pt nadir? what was hct, how low? I once had a pt with Hct of 20, temp 100.6, tumor fevers, got order for ok to transfuse with temp of 100.6 (she needed the blood) and transfused her. She turned out fine.
rn-n- 2005
46 Posts
On our floor we would have transfused. I would have called Dr and let them know about the temp. We have standing orders for our neutropenic pts like transfuse 2 units PRBC's if hematocrit is equal to or less than 25 and transfuse 1 unit of single donor platelets if plt count is equal to or less than 10 or equal to or less than 20 if febrile. The bone marrow just chews up platelets when they're febrile. These are mostly for our leukemic pts.
Most of the time thses fevers are neutropenic fevers and they are par for the course, unfortunately. Hope this helps.
LittleWeasle44
14 Posts
Yeah You should transfuse
hemeoncnursesc
2 Posts
I work at a major academic university in SC. I've been a hem/onc/BMT RN for 3 years. We ALWAYS TRANSFUSE PLATELETS despite a patient being febrile. Why? FEVERS EAT UP PLATELETS. We wouldn't have transfused PRBCs with a fever >101.5.
Lainee
41 Posts
Platelets of 5 K? as long as the fever was worked up, yes I'd transfuse the platelets. PRBC depends on the hgb.
bonodonnaonaroll
45 Posts
I've often wondered what is meant by platlets being "chewed up" during fevers. Why would more platlets be destroyed during a febrile episode?
Thanks for any answers.
Julie
holdensjane
92 Posts
i'm new to bmt and there's so much i don't know. can someone please explain the reasons for this, about the eating of the plts, not infusing prbcs for fever but infusing plts? My preceptor also told me something about not giving tylenol because of masking the fever, but i can't remember what the conditions were again. She also gave conditions where it would be ok to give the tylenol can someone please explain. i'm still on orientation