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I ran into a nurse that was enrolled in the ERNP program at Emory. Here is the link:

http://www.nursing.emory.edu/nursing/admissions/msn/enpb.shtml

The way she described it all of the time is spent in the ER but they receive an FNP degree. Looking at the program this is not exactly what is described, but it makes me a little curious. My main issue with this (as a non NP) is that you have someone that is trained and certified as a FNP but has little or no clinical training in basic job functions of an FNP such as preventive health. I would love to hear some comments.

Also the cost seems to be a little excessive. When I mentioned the PA program was very pricey at $60k she said the NP program was more than that:o. Looking at their fees if you do it full time it is more than $45k per year.

David Carpenter, PA-C

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I am currently in the program you are referring to at Emory University. It is true that we sit for the FNP certification since there is no ENP certification (I hear its in the works though). We also do many of our clinical hours in the ER, however if you look at the amount of clincial hours required for the ENP vs. the FNP program, you will see that the ENP program requires a lot more. Those hours are comprised of BOTH ER clinical and Primary Care hours therefore we definitely learn the skills needed to function as a FNP in a PCP role

I ran into a nurse that was enrolled in the ERNP program at Emory. Here is the link:

http://www.nursing.emory.edu/nursing/admissions/msn/enpb.shtml

The way she described it all of the time is spent in the ER but they receive an FNP degree. Looking at the program this is not exactly what is described, but it makes me a little curious. My main issue with this (as a non NP) is that you have someone that is trained and certified as a FNP but has little or no clinical training in basic job functions of an FNP such as preventive health. I would love to hear some comments.

Also the cost seems to be a little excessive. When I mentioned the PA program was very pricey at $60k she said the NP program was more than that:o. Looking at their fees if you do it full time it is more than $45k per year.

David Carpenter, PA-C

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I am currently in the program you are referring to at Emory University. It is true that we sit for the FNP certification since there is no ENP certification (I hear its in the works though). We also do many of our clinical hours in the ER, however if you look at the amount of clincial hours required for the ENP vs. the FNP program, you will see that the ENP program requires a lot more. Those hours are comprised of BOTH ER clinical and Primary Care hours therefore we definitely learn the skills needed to function as a FNP in a PCP role

I don't want to quibble, but looking at the Emory ERNP and FNP programs as written there is around (I say around because both say more than x hours clinical) 100 hours more clinical and six credit hours difference between the two programs. If you many of your clinical hours in the ER, I have a hard time seeing how you get enough FNP clinical hours to become proficient at that. 100 hours more in the ER hardly makes someone clinically proficient. Especially if they don't have an ER background to start with.

NONPF guidelines recommend additional hours to cover the additional certification. If this was a post grad certificate in then NONPF guidelines would recommend more than 400 hours.

David Carpenter, PA-C

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