Currirulum equivalency

suzanne4, RN · Jun 19, 2008

Moved your thread to the International Forum where it is more appropriate since it has to deal with foreign trained nurses.

Are you asking about the RN programs or the LPN programs?

In order for the program to meet the requirements for the US, for the RN, it must be the four year BSN, the ADN from there is not accepted for immigration purposes in the US.

There have been issues going on with quite a few of the programs that are there right now. Can you be much more specific as to what you are wanting to know? It will make it easier for us to answer for you.

dave787 · Jun 20, 2008

a lot of institution thats assess your credential if its comparable to the US nursing education, this are member of NACES, but the Philippine Nursing program is the same with the US in terms of theory and clinical hours.

suzanne4, RN · Jun 20, 2008

a lot of institution thats assess your credential if its comparable to the US nursing education, this are member of NACES, but the Philippine Nursing program is the same with the US in terms of theory and clinical hours.

Unfortunately, not all programs being offered in the Philippines now meet the requirements for all states in the US. There are several that have not even met the requirements for CA and this has been recently.

Each program is reviewed on its own merit.

coolbombe · Jun 20, 2008

Moved your thread to the International Forum where it is more appropriate since it has to deal with foreign trained nurses.
Are you asking about the RN programs or the LPN programs?
In order for the program to meet the requirements for the US, for the RN, it must be the four year BSN, the ADN from there is not accepted for immigration purposes in the US.
There have been issues going on with quite a few of the programs that are there right now. Can you be much more specific as to what you are wanting to know? It will make it easier for us to answer for you.

Thank you, Suzanne4:

This case in particular involves a RN (with 4 year degree), whose visa application has been denied by US Embassy because her degree is deemed not "equivalent" to one in the US. In addition this person has taken and passed the NCLEX examination.

suzanne4, RN · Jun 20, 2008

There is more to the story than what you are being told. If they were permitted to sit for the exam, then there are other issues involved.

Or that their school filed phony documents for them, and we have seen that done.

And are you speaking of the Visa Screen Certificater, this is what I think that you are talking of. And yes, there are programs that are offered in the Philippines that do not meet the requirements for the US as far as immigration is concerned.

And did this person finish a complete 4 year program or as a second courser and which school did they attend? You can send it to me via pm so that you do not have to post it here on the forum for everyone to read.

coolbombe · Jun 21, 2008

Thank you Suzanne4:

The issue has been resolved. I discovered that the reason for visa denial was for insufficient documented nursing experience, we are taking steps to rectify that.

Thank you so much for taking the time to answer my questions.

suzanne4, RN · Jun 21, 2008

Thank you Suzanne4:
The issue has been resolved. I discovered that the reason for visa denial was for insufficient documented nursing experience, we are taking steps to rectify that.
Thank you so much for taking the time to answer my questions.

Again, are you speaking of the Visa Screen Certificate or the actual interview at the US Embassy?

There is something else that does not add up as experience as not been required in the past. So not sure why now, there is more to the story.

dave787 · Jun 22, 2008

Unfortunately, not all programs being offered in the Philippines now meet the requirements for all states in the US. There are several that have not even met the requirements for CA and this has been recently.
Each program is reviewed on its own merit.

as far as i know the ched set the standard for nursing here in philippines including the hours bothe in theory and clinical experince for each nursing subject that is comparable to the US, because you cant graduate if you dont meet those minimum hours which has the same with the US requirments, they only meet problem during the submition of transcript for credential evaluation in the US because the registrar made a wrong entry. i had this experince in the local exam before when the PRc turn down the aplicants because there registrar made a false entry due to lacking of hours in the clinical hours. so i guess we have just the same. unless the BON ask for other subjects like the arts.

suzanne4, RN · Jun 22, 2008

Sorry, but the requirements for licensure in the US is not the same for all states. Each state can set their own requirements.

Sure, they all have to meet the minimum requirements, but states can add on whatever else that they deem necessary for licensure in that state.

And we have seen it happen several times with programs that are being offered in the Philippines and this is with CA. It is not something that I am just making up.

And another fact that you may not be aware of is that even all nursing programs that are offered in the US do not meet the requirements for all states in the US. There is already much written on this as well.

Making a mistake on a document or leaving something off is not what I am talking about, but actual coursework.