Unions vs non union hospitals - page 2

I spoke to various people regarding working for union hospitals vs non-union. Some nurses have actually left union hospitals to go work in non union hospitals and even reported better work... Read More

  1. by   Neats
    I think unions can be good when they are truly needed. But with all the HR policy/procedures, with the 1800 I hate my boss reporting number, with laws/regulation there are way more measures one can take to ensure they are being treated fairly. As a manager of over 30 years experience I have hoops that I jump through and do the right thing. Even when managers do not do right there are so many laws a person could use to sue the company. If your work truly is having staff issues because of the way they are being unfair and not following regulation that is one thing but if it unions are being used for job security or pay raises then I would think carefully about joining a union. Just my input.
  2. by   perioperative
    Defiantly NON UNION. Unions protect the lazy, take your money for political contributions to the candidates of their choice.
  3. by   PaddyW
    For me Unions have helped us fight for adequate staffing and improved pay so that we had competitive wages for the area. We are able to utilize union documentation and representation to ensure that we have proof that unsafe staffing and/or patient acuities are noted and filed for potential lawsuits. I am neither a lazy employee, nor does ALL my money go to pay for political candidates. We often do lobbying (as in nurses show up) against certain healthcare bills or ensuring that we maintain our legally mandated patient to nurse ratios.
  4. by   Dranger
    Unions in my area are completely useless, COl went up 14% in Seattle last year, 13% the year before and they negotiate the same 1.5-2% cookie cutter raise each year. Literally copy and paste each new contract. Thanks for nothing...
  5. by   juan de la cruz
    Quote from wondern
    Respectfully...the ideals of that designation in our nursing culture? hmmm...

    Do I/we qualify?


    Gee, I passed my boards and do my continuing education is that not good enough in my short staffed almost daily working world?

    Little rant...I'm thinking 'magnet' designation needs to include things like providing sufficient staff including experienced and qualified medical staff as well as ancillary staff and sometimes providing enough of even the basic medical equipment to get the job done efficiently e.g. enough wheelchairs to help with providing basic such so-called magnet care.

    That's real life~ hire more nurses, retain nurses by pay raises and providing respect for your nurses more often, both new and experienced, maybe buy some wheelchairs...

    I used to try to believe in the 'magnet' then I stopped. What are the real changes? They stay in business by paying for an ideal title? The nurses and doctors all have the same license at other hospitals. Yet this 'magnet' hospital wants to act as if its superior. It's not bad to try to be good but paying for it just doesn't seem ethical.

    Don't hospitals pay big bucks for this? By doing what, cutting nurses and some of the very basic necessities to get the basic job of patient care done efficiently?

    If I'm wrong about buying the designation, let me know. Union vs Non-union is the question in this thread. I apologize for getting sidetracked. The magnet word just sucked me in. Let me go take off this metal armor! It's way too heavy anyhow.
    Sorry, late to respond as I just saw this.

    I think my statement was interpreted the wrong way somewhat. I agree that Magnet designation is never a true and reliable indicator of how good a hospital treats its nurses.

    When I said that "our hospital's Magnet designation is an affirmation of how well we live the ideal in our nursing culture"...I meant that the hospital I work for have always had a "nursing culture" that respects nurses as highly skilled and independent professionals who have a voice in how they should practice even before we received our Magnet designation.

    There is a true collaboration between nurses and other professional here and that's what would attract the kind of nurses who thrive and excel in their specialties. Of course, its not always perfect and we do have some rotten apples like everywhere else but for the most part and in comparison with the other places I've worked at in my 20+ years of nursing career, this place stands out for that reason in my eyes.

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