So few CRNA's.. - page 2

From what I have seems like there are not very many CRNA's in the United States...Is this true? If it is...why so? Why are there so few CRNA's? Are there a lot of nurses going into... Read More

  1. by   EmeraldNYL
    Hmm, I haven't had the problem that arkgolfer describes. I've told several of my professors that I plan on applying to CRNA school in a few years, and I have definitely received support and encouragement. I've had to educate a few of my profs though about what all a CRNA can do, some of them were not aware that a CRNA can function very independently, without an MDA's supervision, in some areas of the country.
  2. by   MICU RN
    Most of the nursing educaters I spoke to about were in encouraging, however, I did get the feeling that some felt like it was not really a nursey type of job. And while I am sure some are resentful at the fact that crna's can make so much more than other nurses, I know some were glad to that nurses were finally being compensated appropriately for their education and skills.
  3. by   Nitecap
    artgolf Im with you man, my nursing instructors always polked fun saying " and all you who want to be CRNA's don't listen to this because you won't be communicating with your patients they will all be alseep. My reply " So I won't be running around like a chicken trying to carry out orders, I will be mentaly challenged using my knowlegde and experience to safelty adminisister anesthesia." I really believe they are jealous. Nursing educators don't get paid much. Actually and educator with an MSN can make more being a staff nurse than being a teacher. PHd's or DNS may make a little more but still not that much. It's the money they are jealous about plan and simple.
  4. by   sweetdreams
    The "party line" in my school was to encourage us to use our BSN as a stepping stone to advance practice. Granted, this was before the FNP job market was in the toilet, but I do remember at least one CRNA giving a guest lecture. The majority of the instructors were doctorally prepared and seemed to show genuine interest in the students.
    Last edit by sweetdreams on Aug 12, '03
  5. by   CRNA, DNSc
    The division between nursing and nurse anesthesia has historical roots back to the early days of nurse anesthesia- You should read "Watchful Care" by Marianne Bankart it is amazing to see how that many of the difficulties and challenges we face today have roots in the past. It is true that "those who do not know their history are doomed to repeat it!!!!!"
  6. by   K38s
    I just don't get the whole "your patients will be asleep" bit. ICU
    nurses are considered real nurses and half my patients are sedated into next week!! Maybe it is jealousy.
  7. by   yoga crna
    I give more intense nursing care during anesthesia than some of those educators ever did. My patients all get a pre-op phone call, hand holding during induction or sedation, post-op follow-up and moment to moment intraoperative monitoring. Being able to give the nursing dimension to anesthesia is very important to me and my patients love it. It get lots of respect and admiration from the people I anesthetize. I will go head to head with any nursing educator who doesn't think this is nursing care. My first question to them would be: "When was the last time you took care of a patient?"

    By the way, I was a member of the faculty of a large university nursing department for a couple years, teaching health care economics. The other faculty members got upset that I was teaching the MSN/NP students about independent practice. Maybe it is jealousy.

  8. by   K38s
    Yoga, I couldn't agree more.
  9. by   Athlein
    Yoga has it spot-on. Some of the nursing educators in this world are exemplary, but sadly, there is so much emphasis on nursing theory, psychosocial nonsense, and the intangible of caring in academia that it is no wonder that today's students graduate without a clue about basic nursing care (you know, the basics...meeting the emotional, spiritual, and physical needs of a patient - and no, I don't need Orem's theory as a construct or lectures on motivating patients toward spontaneous healing with positive energy fields to guide me in my practice, thank you kindly)!