I feel like this is a really stupid question, but I'm going to ask it anyway (because you never learn if you never ask, and I really want to understand this). While floating in ICU, I was recently assisting with a patient who had metastatic cancer (started as breast cancer and metastasized to the brain and lungs). The patient suffered a perforated duodenal ulcer, and underwent surgery for this. Following surgery, the patient developed severe ARDS, and landed in ICU for several weeks. During her ICU stay, the patient had a central line and arterial line placed (she became severely hypotensive, and was placed on a Levophed drip). While transducing CVP and arterial waveforms and numbers, I noticed that the CVP numbers didn't match up with the rest of the clinical picture. Since I float, and ICU isn't my home unit, I'm not guaranteed to come back there. I kept up with the progress notes, and noted that the surgeon had written a note the next day stating "since the central line is not placed in the superior vena cava, we will no longer use it to obtain information regarding the CVP."
I thought that the SVC was the termination point for central lines, and that this was basically a given. I could see that centrals might work in other locations, but I always thought that SVC placement was standard practice. Is it common to place a central in another location, and continue to use it? The line was never moved, and the patient was receiving Levophed, TPN, and Lipids through it. The surgeon never specified where exactly the line was, and I didn't have a chance to interact with either him or the ICU staff again while the patient was still in ICU. Just wondered if someone could shed some light on this issue. Thanks.
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I feel like this is a really stupid question, but I'm going to ask it anyway (because you never learn if you never ask, and I really want to understand this). While floating in ICU, I was recently assisting with a patient who had metastatic cancer (started as breast cancer and metastasized to the brain and lungs). The patient suffered a perforated duodenal ulcer, and underwent surgery for this. Following surgery, the patient developed severe ARDS, and landed in ICU for several weeks. During her ICU stay, the patient had a central line and arterial line placed (she became severely hypotensive, and was placed on a Levophed drip). While transducing CVP and arterial waveforms and numbers, I noticed that the CVP numbers didn't match up with the rest of the clinical picture. Since I float, and ICU isn't my home unit, I'm not guaranteed to come back there. I kept up with the progress notes, and noted that the surgeon had written a note the next day stating "since the central line is not placed in the superior vena cava, we will no longer use it to obtain information regarding the CVP."
I thought that the SVC was the termination point for central lines, and that this was basically a given. I could see that centrals might work in other locations, but I always thought that SVC placement was standard practice. Is it common to place a central in another location, and continue to use it? The line was never moved, and the patient was receiving Levophed, TPN, and Lipids through it. The surgeon never specified where exactly the line was, and I didn't have a chance to interact with either him or the ICU staff again while the patient was still in ICU. Just wondered if someone could shed some light on this issue. Thanks.