California ends Maximus contract

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In January California will end their contract with Maximus. We don't know who will be the new program administrator. We have been told that they will give us more information in January. So there could be a lot changes. We have a 3-5 year contract that was done by Maximus, with this new administration we don't know if that will still be a thing. I have only four months left of my three year contract. Can they extend me if the new program administrator decides to make it a five year program. 

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Hi!  I'm in Pennsylvania and we had a similar scenario happen. A new vendor took over our monitoring agency in January. My initial contract was 3 years with the old monitoring program.  The new program increased their monitoring contracts to 5 years, but since I already signed a contract with the state for a 3 year contract that's what they are honoring.  

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Wow! This is very interesting.  I was considering moving my monitoring contract from Florida to California, but Maximus told me I'd have to start my 5 year contract totally over with no credit for what I completed in Florida.  Since I have 2 years left in Florida, there was no way I wanted to start over. I didn't realize that Maximus could dictate these decisions.

I'm curious if anyone knows why the California BRN is ending the contract?

 

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Wow that's pretty ridiculous that they won't give you credit for your time that you already put in that is clearly documented. 
And I can't speak to California, but in Pennsylvania I think they went with a different vendor due to financial reasons. 

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Quickstepper said:

Wow! This is very interesting.  I was considering moving my monitoring contract from Florida to California, but Maximus told me I'd have to start my 5 year contract totally over with no credit for what I completed in Florida.  Since I have 2 years left in Florida, there was no way I wanted to start over. I didn't realize that Maximus could dictate these decisions.

I'm curious if anyone knows why the California BRN is ending the contract?

 

I wouldn't start over either.  That's ridiculous.  California seems to be the worst 

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Quickstepper said:

Wow! This is very interesting.  I was considering moving my monitoring contract from Florida to California, but Maximus told me I'd have to start my 5 year contract totally over with no credit for what I completed in Florida.  Since I have 2 years left in Florida, there was no way I wanted to start over. I didn't realize that Maximus could dictate these decisions.

I'm curious if anyone knows why the California BRN is ending the contract?

 

Hi-  this article somewhat answers your question of why Maximus is ending their contract. 
https://calmatters.org/health/2024/12/board-of-registered-nursing-addiction-recovery/

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I guess the new vendor that will be taking over Maximus in January will be premier health group. Not sure how strict they will be.

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For some nurses that move to a different state for monitoring while under consent order, there are 4 outcomes that usually happen regarding the new state accepting the nurses time/credit from the old state.

1. The new state gives you the credited time from the state you movesd from and you do the rest in the new state. This occurs rarely.

2. The new state wants you to do full 3 or 5 years and gives you no credited time from the old state. Also occurs rarely but it does happen.

3. You have a 3 year monitoring agreement in the old state and the new state says you have to have 5 years of monitoring total, so they count whatever time you did in the old state and give you the remaining time in the new state to reach 5 years.

4. Most common outcome. The old state doesn't care if you moved. You are still licensed there and you are going to be required to drug test for the old state regardless of what the new state requires. If they don't require you to drug test, they will require the new state to send them your quarterly drug testing results. Also, the new state usually will give you the credit from then old state and ensure thst you reach 5 years of monitoring.

Take home. Don't move during monitoring to another state. If you have to, then it's understandable, but you are literally overwhelming yourself with stress. Finally, the most common thing forgotten when you move is that the nurse thinks it's all about what the new state will do and forgets about the old state. You are still licensed in the old state and many of them don't care that you moved and will require you to still complete their requirements, so you may find yourself calling 2 different drug testing lines daily and sometimes peeing two times in the same day for drug testing requirements for both states.

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NurseJackie69 said:

For some nurses that move to a different state for monitoring while under consent order, there are 4 outcomes that usually happen regarding the new state accepting the nurses time/credit from the old state.

1. The new state gives you the credited time from the state you movesd from and you do the rest in the new state. This occurs rarely.

2. The new state wants you to do full 3 or 5 years and gives you no credited time from the old state. Also occurs rarely but it does happen.

3. You have a 3 year monitoring agreement in the old state and the new state says you have to have 5 years of monitoring total, so they count whatever time you did in the old state and give you the remaining time in the new state to reach 5 years.

4. Most common outcome. The old state doesn't care if you moved. You are still licensed there and you are going to be required to drug test for the old state regardless of what the new state requires. If they don't require you to drug test, they will require the new state to send them your quarterly drug testing results. Also, the new state usually will give you the credit from then old state and ensure thst you reach 5 years of monitoring.

Take home. Don't move during monitoring to another state. If you have to, then it's understandable, but you are literally overwhelming yourself with stress. Finally, the most common thing forgotten when you move is that the nurse thinks it's all about what the new state will do and forgets about the old state. You are still licensed in the old state and many of them don't care that you moved and will require you to still complete their requirements, so you may find yourself calling 2 different drug testing lines daily and sometimes peeing two times in the same day for drug testing requirements for both states.

If you move both states communicate. 99% of the time you just test for the new state.

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Can anyone update us on the new California monitoring program since the BRN ended their contract with Maximus?

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Maximus is a monopoly. They market brilliance yet lack accountability to communicate transparency. It's a most despicable publicly traded company. From top to bottom, management doesn't practice psychological safety; instead their doors are open and they betray confidentiality. There is much backstabbing among the ranks and several lawsuits over the years have resulted in huge penalties yet, likely political, they continue to obtain new contracts with many hands in the federal and state governments. It was a travesty when they leaked over 6M customer records and stated no harm was done. 

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There are a lot of Maximus types out there. I blame the corrupt California BON for giving them the contract. If the California BON wasn't corrupt, then the monitoring program in California and ruining of nurses lives wouldn't occur.

The California BON could have given that contract to the most reputable monitoring contractor on earth and guess what? There would still be major problems because the square root (California BON) is a corrupt shi$show. 

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