This appears to be exactly the type of article that creates division and anger in the CRNA/MDA relationship. Written by MDAs, this article does an excellent job of taking limited stats, non-statistical signifigant numbers with low N and p values, and weaving it into a "MDAs look better" proposition. They say it over and over again then add reality here and there with "but the numbers are not statistically signifigant" and " a true cross section study with N values large enough to make valid claims would be "costly and possibly unethical"". Essentially, what i see is this: We know the numbers wont bear out our claims if we do large numbers, so why not make unscientific infrences from the weak N values we have to lobby politically.
I like reading articles like this. I am not sure why one profession knocks or puts down others. Well, ok turf has a lot to do with it but none the less it still drives me crazy. From my point of view, where I have slowly grown up through the ranks I have seen it from all angles.
I guess professionally it is something that you have to deal with.
Is there that much animosity between MDs and CRNAs? How are CRNA perceived by other nurses?
I am an "other nurse". I work in surgery as a holding area nurse and/or circulator. The CRNA's in the group here are awesome! They are so helpful to the circulators and very willing to teach. If I can't get an IV (and we all use local for anything bigger than a 20, btw!) it's the CRNA's I go looking for, for assistance. Not only will they start it, they will give me hints as to why they are using a particular site. (MD's usually say, "Well who's patient is it? They will be free soon."
herseyjh
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I like reading articles like this. I am not sure why one profession knocks or puts down others. Well, ok turf has a lot to do with it but none the less it still drives me crazy. From my point of view, where I have slowly grown up through the ranks I have seen it from all angles.
I guess professionally it is something that you have to deal with.
Is there that much animosity between MDs and CRNAs? How are CRNA perceived by other nurses?