Agenda for change (again)

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I don't know if anyone has any experience of this problem, but I would welcome any advice please.

My post was re-graded in May this year and the pay increase backdated to november 2006.

When I hadn't received it by June I called our salaries dept. The lady who does my pay said that she had just received notification (6 weeks after I was told it had been sent to salaries) and that she could not do it for July as she was going on holiday. I there fore expected it in August.

I didn't get it this week so I phoned again to be told that she has now taken on extra work so the re-grading is taking longer. She has several lists and I am on list 3. They will be done in order.

When I asked how many lists are done each month I was told sometimes not even 1. I explained that I will be leaving my job next spring as I am emigrating and she could not even guarantee that it would be done by then.

Is there not some timescale or performance indicator that should be used in these cases?

Specializes in midwifery, gen surgical, community.

Pay may well be owing from November 2006, but that is not a payroll issue. How can you pay money people are owed, when their job was not even evaluated until May?

Also, I was not saying you where phoning everyday, but someone else made a comment about phoning everyday, and he who shouts loudest gets heard.

How would we, as nurses, feel if after completing our shift on say ward 14, we where than asked to work on ward 15 for a couple of hours every day with no extra money. Working for free!! I would not do it, so I would not expect payroll to do it. That is what is expected of them now.

I only know this is what happens as my 2 sisters work payroll. I can understand your feelings as I would not be happy, but the blame belongs with managers and chief execuetives not employing enough staff, and not with the poor overworked payroll clerks.

Pay may well be owing from November 2006, but that is not a payroll issue. How can you pay money people are owed, when their job was not even evaluated until May?

Also, I was not saying you where phoning everyday, but someone else made a comment about phoning everyday, and he who shouts loudest gets heard.

How would we, as nurses, feel if after completing our shift on say ward 14, we where than asked to work on ward 15 for a couple of hours every day with no extra money. Working for free!! I would not do it, so I would not expect payroll to do it. That is what is expected of them now.

I only know this is what happens as my 2 sisters work payroll. I can understand your feelings as I would not be happy, but the blame belongs with managers and chief execuetives not employing enough staff, and not with the poor overworked payroll clerks.

I wish I could count the hours I work for free!

However, my criticism has not been of individual staff, but of the system. I have been nothing less that polite and respectful of individuals. I have not attributed blame to anyone.

I still believe that the system is inadequate....for all those who work in it!

Specializes in midwifery, gen surgical, community.

I agree with you, the system is inadequate for everyone working in the NHS.

We should be blaming people, ie. the idiots who thought up Agenda for Change. It is an ill thought concept that was used as a sop to quiet the Unions (ineffective as the Nursing unions are in the NHS).

Everywhere in the NHS is understaffed. As the front line care providers, we tend to believe that only we are hard done by. I am as guilty as the next person of believing this.

I only wanted to point out that jobs we believe are cushy ie office jobs are also under intolerable stress. I did not mean to antagonise anyone or upset anyone.

And yes I also work unpaid overtime. But why should we? Isn't it about time we all said NO, and just went home when we should? That is the only way we will end up with more staff. The NHS is laughing all the way to the bank every time each worker works that extra 15 mins or 1 hour extra without pay.

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