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No. 20
from parfum
Old Oct 29, 2009, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by newway View Post
My wife who is now just two classes away from her masters in nursing say she whish she had done it differently. She went the BSN route. She is also an instructor at a local community college and recommends this to her students. Get an ANS, start working, and immediately sign up for an ASN to BSN program. It will probably take an extra year to year and a half to get the BSN, but compare that to the nurse who went the BSN route. After five years you both have BSN’s but the one who got the ASN first now has three years experience and the BSN grad has one. Who do you think will get the promotion? Plus many places offer tuition reimbursement so she would have about 40,000 less in student loans if she had done it the other way. Her masters has almost been completely pay for by her employer. By the way she says she learned more in her first three months on the job than the four years of college proceeding it.
This is the way I am going to try it
Yet in another thread, an ASN grad recently posted that she and her 100's of fellow new grads cannot find work to even begin to get those "three years experience" because they are only hiring BSN grads, minimum.
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No. 21
from JeromeFJ
Old Oct 29, 2009, 05:03 PM

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I believe the nursing classes are pretty much the same. Rather you are in a BSN program or a ASN program, there's only so many ways to put in a foley. There's extra classes in a BSN that prepare you to perhaps manage, or to influence nursing in some way. There's health promotion or informatics. These classes give the student a foundation for doing something bigger in the nursing field other than just basic nursing. These things aren't on a NCLEX so it' gives no advantage on the test for the BSN students
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No. 22
from newway
Old Oct 30, 2009, 09:25 AM

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“Yet in another thread, an ASN grad recently posted that she and her 100's of fellow new grads cannot find work to even begin to get those "three years experience" because they are only hiring BSN grads, minimum. ”
I will qualify that she is giving this advice to students already enrolled in a two year program, and she does recommend to immediately enroll in an asn to bsn program. By the way her first job was not in a hospital. It was 3rd shift in a nursing home. The pay was crappy and the management poor. But she got experience. Worked as a contract traveling nurse for a while. Then she did med surge for a while (said she gained ton of experience there). Moved to ortho loved that. Tried cardiac and didn’t like it. Now she is out of floor nursing entirely. She works corporate oc health, and loves it M-F paid holidays, mortality rate 0, cdiff 0 LOL. And as I said she also teaches as adjunct faculty at the local community college on the side.
Are you trying home health, nursing homes, float pool, or registry? I asked her this same question because I read all the post of asn grads not finding a job. Not true she replied she just saw one of her former students at the nursing home she does clinicals at. She claims they don’t hire MSN’S there because they can’t keep them. In fact the director of nursing at this home is an LPN.
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No. 23
Old Oct 30, 2009, 05:51 PM

Default Re: Typical ASN VS BSN questions
Originally Posted by Student4_life View Post
I am assuming that you went to HCC, if so you took only 9 Nursing classes, that is 6 less than any 4 year program is required to take. Since you got an BS in accounting I am sure you are aware that is 3/5ths the education. You can't, have that large of a disparity without some gaps.
I'm sure at least some of those BSN classes are 3 credit classes. All of my ASN nursing classes (not HCC) were 7 credit classes...

Originally Posted by Student4_life View Post
Edit: oh I just noticed the required GPA of 2.25 to get into HCC's nursing program, do we really want nurses that only learned 72.5% of what they needed to know at a community college...
Well as you mentioned in your first post, the ASN programs are often very competitive, and I can only speak for my ASN program there is no way anyone is getting in with less than a 3.0, most probably had 3.5 or better.

Your #1 mistake is in assuming all BSN's require one set of courses and all ASN's require another. They all vary WIDELY in their requirements, and lumping together all the programs of each type degree, as far as core requirements/prereqs, is often like lumping in apples and oranges.
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No. 24
from Nikki Grms
Old Nov 09, 2009, 09:48 AM

Default Re: Typical ASN VS BSN questions
[quote=JeromeFJ;3939938]I don't understand people having Bachelor's degrees, and then doing 2 years associate degree programs? The only time I think it's a good option, is if you simply cannot afford a second degree option BSN program, or you can't commit the amount of time it'd take to attend those types of classes.

Or there is not program like that in your city!! Not everyone has a plethora of options when it comes to schooling. And like I mentioned in my eariler post, everyone is at a different stage in life and although some choices may not make sense to you, they may be the best for their life at that time.
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