Should I Be Scared of Getting an ADN in 2011? - page 2

by Paco-RN

My immediate goal is to obtain a BSN, an accelerated one at that because I already have a bachelor's. I am currently awaiting decisions from several programs, with muffled anxiousness I might add. However, I have also applied... Read More


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    Paco-Do you think you received enough clinical exposure in the accelerated BSN program? I would like to go that route as well, but it appears those programs may lack some clinical experience. I'm having a hard time making a decision.
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    This problem is right where I am, and what I have posted on another post. I am considering all my options. I know there are bridge programs, so its not like I'm never going to get my BSN. I am just trying to break into the nursing field first as a caregiver or CNA (caregiver is a greater possibility right now, because businesses are more willing to train caregivers because they aren't really required to be CNA's, just some prefer CNA's).

    I have applied to two jobs right now. A Caregiver position at an assisted living facility, and a housekeeper position at a care home and rehabilitation center. I am hoping for both quite frankly. I am really hoping that I can get the job. I am nervous though, because they could just hire a CNA rather then me.

    I could go directly into School, but its not possible right now. I need work first.

    Honestly I think the ANA is creating the nursing shortage. Constantly pushing for higher and higher degrees is always going to create a shortage of health professionals and having a requirement to a full RN staff is going to do nothing for the profession honestly in my humble opinion. Entry level degrees should be just that, entry level, either Associates or Diploma work fine for that. Bachelors degrees are entry level too but slightly higher then Associates. I saw a comment that we should look up north to Canada and I'm starting to think that this would be a great idea. I am not certain how they do this in Canada though, and probably should research more about it, however below I have outlined what I think would be a great way to go in the Nursing field.


    Licensed Practical Nurse is the entry nurse position at the Associates level: they encompass CNA work and bedside care that they currently already have in scope of practice laws, the programs have the option of being 1-2 years, and you could have two levels Licensed Practical Nurse and Advanced Licensed Practical Nurse (sort of like CNA and PCT, a PCT is an Advanced practice CNA in many areas in fact this probably would replace the need for CNA's and PCT, creating two levels of Licensed Practical Nursing, maybe one being Licensed Practical Nurse, and Registered Practical Nurse) (Just hypothesizing)

    BSN: This would be your entry level RN degree, if it takes you 2 years for pre-professional stuff and 2 years for professional program that effectively is a 4 year program, and this should be given at your local community college as well as at a University system. In fact more partnerships should be done between 4 year and 2 year schools to allow for joint admissions. I also agree with the Cohort system in which you have 2 or 3 programs starting at overlapping intervals. Which increases seats, but paces students at different points in the program.

    Then your MSN becomes your Clinical NP degree in which you specialize in Neonatal care, Emergency Nursing etc(and the title changes from Registered Nurse, to Registered Nurse Practitioner with this degree)

    The Doctor of Nurse Practice: This would be your teaching degree effectively erasing need for a PH.D., the title is in the Degree itself Doctor of Nurse Practice. Yes I know there is a huge fight right now between Nurses and MD's about this but honestly any one who sits through 4 more years of nursing school at this advanced level should be called a Doctor, but they should always clarify what type of doctor they are, and it should only be used in professional teaching capacity. We need more Nursing teachers anyway, so this degree would only be for those who intend to teach nursing professionally. Even start their own Nursing school. They must maintain their nursing license from the state obviously.

    And 1 more thing. From what I hear, I think Clinical should be like internships (only a little shorter), you go and find them, and then set them up with the program instructor to get credit for the Clinical. I'm not sure how clinical work now. But I think they are similar. If I am wrong please let me know. I am okay with correction.

    I am just newly researching all of this. But from what I see. Well These are just my ideas that I think would work only if the nursing field stops arguing and starts working toward a full solution. This way all nurses what ever level they are at, know that the people below them are nurses too, just at a different stage in their career. The only thing is if I was to try to effect change now people will laugh at me. I would have to become an RN with many years of experience before I get into positions where I could effect positive change in the system.

    My two cents. Sorry this was so long. I just have these thoughts and would like to share them. Even though I have zero experience and probably would be better keeping my mouth shut. I hope you don't mind that. If you do tell me, I will understand.
    Last edit by scurbro on Jul 14, '12
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    Quote from kat184
    Paco-Do you think you received enough clinical exposure in the accelerated BSN program? I would like to go that route as well, but it appears those programs may lack some clinical experience. I'm having a hard time making a decision.
    I guess it depends on the school you go to, but i received alot of clinical experience in my BSN program and I have no regrets not going the adn route. I recently worked at a magnet hospital here in Illinois that WILL NOT even look at your resume if you don't have a BSN. Their job posting all are BSN required, not desired.


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