Direct Entry Programs- How hard to get in? - page 21

Thanks for all of your responses to all of my previous posts. As you probably assume, I'm evaluating all of my options including ADN, BSN, and Direct-Entry MSN. The direct entry programs look... Read More

  1. by   CAG12345
    Hi everybody,

    Just came back from one tough Anatomy exam. I think I did well on it

    Seahorse, when I read your post about UCSF, I thought "wow! 1st Alternate!" But I know it's disappointing, especially b/c I think we all tend to guess that everyone will want to go to UCSF and accept their offers, but I think what everyone has said in the subsequent posts about finances, distance, other possible first choices is all true. You could really be going and I agree the letter you're writing is a great idea.

    I called Vanderbilt today (before my exam, not the smartest move, but I thought it might get me to stop obsessing about the mail and focus on my test), and the person who answered in admissions offered to look at my file, did so, and said that they're still reviewing my application, but have accepted all the direct entry (non RN) students they have room for, so if they decide they would accept me, I would be on a waitlist.

    I'm kicking myself for not applying sooner, b/c they have that rolling admissions policy, and state they recommend applying before December 1st. But I didn't know about their program until the end of December, so I couldn't have done much to change things. And with working 50 hrs week, a 2.5 hr commute each day and 12 hrs of classroom time w/Anatomy and Nutrition and having to go to open lab on Sats for Anatomy for dissections and such, I didn't have time to pull together my essays and recommendations and transcirpts before mid Jan.

    I called MGH, too, before reading your post, FutureNurseJess, and just asked generally where things are. They said they're still making decisions and letters will go out first or second wk of March. So Jess, I think your information is much more specific and, I hope, accurate (the part about making final decisions on Friday and mailing out letters week of 3/7).
    At this point, I'm starting to think about Plan B, because it's hard to imagine getting into MGH, given the application to acceptance ratio. While my GPA is high (3.98) and I have three graduate degrees, my GRE scores are not that incredible compared to what I've seen here (V690, Q530 (gag!), A-5.5). I think my life experience working in the mental health field x17 yrs is a real plus, but I don't have any real physical health care experience. Who knows what they thought of my essays? They're well-written, I know that, but they could think I'm a kook depending on who's reading them. The recs were 2 of them I think excellent, and one of them just average (the academic one w/a professor I just took Micro with who had so many students all he really knows about me is that I got an A, so he doesn't have much to say and isn't the flowery type, but they require an academic rec and he was the person who was around).

    Jess, you've been an inspiration in terms of having a good attitude about plan B, talking about the financial advantages and the concerns about your children and how getting your prereqs done could be good, and applying to another program. You have a great attitude.

    Ray, I haven't said hello yet. You do sound like a great candidate, especially with your fabulous Medical Assistant experience which does, as someone earlier said, sounds more like a residency :stone . I hope you get the news you're waiting for in the next couple of days, as I hope for everyone who's waiting.
    Last edit by CAG12345 on Feb 28, '05
  2. by   pancake
    Quote from CAG12345
    Hi everybody,
    I called Vanderbilt today... -snip-... have accepted all the direct entry (non RN) students they have room for, so if they decide they would accept me, I would be on a waitlist.

    I'm kicking myself for not applying sooner, b/c they have that rolling admissions policy, and state they recommend applying before December 1st.

    I called MGH, too, before reading your post, FutureNurseJess, and just asked generally where things are. They said they're still making decisions and letters will go out first or second wk of March.

    At this point, I'm starting to think about Plan B, because it's hard to imagine getting into MGH, given the application to acceptance ratio. While my GPA is high (3.98) and I have three graduate degrees, my GRE scores are not that incredible compared to what I've seen here (V690, Q530 (gag!), A-5.5).
    CAG,

    You sound like a great candidate! Applying late to Vanderbilt was something out of your control since you didn't know about it. You still have MGH as a possibility 3.98, three graduate degrees, experience in mental health, and what's wrong with your GREs? They look good to me. I can't even mention my math score in public. :imbar I really think you have a great chance to get in

    Good luck to you and keep us posted!

  3. by   smile123
    Quote from ChrisA
    Just got home. No mail from UCSF today. /me kicks the Post Office in the shins.

    Anyway, how on earth am I going to pay for $35,000 tuition if I get in?
    Hi ChrisA,
    I have family up in Seattle; when I mail a letter to them from the SF Bay area, it takes 4 days. So you'll probably hear by Tuesday or Wed.

    Yes, the other posters were right; you can pay for your tuition with student loans. I don't think there's limit on how much you can take out. I know students that have taken out $60K in loans the first year (to pay for tuition, books, room and board). There are subsidized and unsubsidized educational loans which are much cheaper than if you took out a signature loan yourself. Plus, you don't have to pay back the interest until after you are out of school. I would definitely fill out a FAFSA (financial aid form) and then you can see how much you can qualify for. http://www.fafsa.ed.gov/
    Here's a financial aid site: http://www.finaid.org/

    If you qualify, there are scholarships and grants which you don't have to pay back. http://www.finaid.org/scholarships/ There are various loans for grads too: you can get $18,500/year for a Stafford loan, $6000/year for a Perkins loan (usually you have to fill out a FAFSA form). Then there are private loans through banks (also called alternative loans) where you don't have to fill out a financial aid form.

    Why don't you wait for your acceptance letter (think positive!) to show up in the mail? Then you can talk to the UCSF people and their financial aid office can help you. The hard part is getting accepted into a direct entry program. After that, institutions are willing to help finance your education for the nursing field. Wishing you the best!

    Smile123
  4. by   Jess RN
    Quote from CAG12345
    snip...I'm kicking myself for not applying sooner, b/c they have that rolling admissions policy, and state they recommend applying before December 1st. But I didn't know about their program until the end of December, so I couldn't have done much to change things. And with working 50 hrs week, a 2.5 hr commute each day and 12 hrs of classroom time w/Anatomy and Nutrition and having to go to open lab on Sats for Anatomy for dissections and such, I didn't have time to pull together my essays and recommendations and transcirpts before mid Jan.

    snip... While my GPA is high (3.98) and I have three graduate degrees, my GRE scores are not that incredible compared to what I've seen here (V690, Q530 (gag!), A-5.5). I think my life experience working in the mental health field x17 yrs is a real plus, but I don't have any real physical health care experience. Who knows what they thought of my essays? They're well-written, I know that, but they could think I'm a kook depending on who's reading them. The recs were 2 of them I think excellent, and one of them just average (the academic one w/a professor I just took Micro with who had so many students all he really knows about me is that I got an A, so he doesn't have much to say and isn't the flowery type, but they require an academic rec and he was the person who was around).
    CAG Don't lose hope yet! You sound like and excellent candidate! No, you don't have direct healthcare experience- but you are in a "helping profession" and have tons of experience working with people in what I assume is a theraputic role. Your grades are awesome!!! And three graduate degrees.?!? See, I think they are looking for two things in the essays- that you can write on a graduate level and handle graduate school (clearly- you can) and that you know what the role of an NP is and you know what you are getting into (I assume- you do). Your GRes are in the 1200s- that is just fine! Especially considered in context with all of the other parts of our appliaction. You have tons of life experience and I for one would be shocked if you didn't get into MGH.

    That said- I am always a big fan of the plan B as you all know!! I think Vanderbilt didn't work out for a reason- and who knows what that reason is- and kind of - who cares, you know? If you have a nagging feeling you are meant to be there then you should defintiely re-apply. But I suspect that MGH would be a great fit for you and that's where you'll end up. I forget- are you going for the psych/mental health track? I have a friedn applying to that track who was waitlisted last year (#2 on the waitlist- and he didn't get in- ouch!) and his stats were really different and some would say not as impressive as yours (recent college grad- 3.2 gpa- pre-med, 1290 GRE, 2 yrs of research exp, A s in the post-bac pre reqs). So, I guess what I'm saying is really, totally- don't lose hope!!!

    -Jess
    Last edit by Jess RN on Mar 1, '05
  5. by   Gennaver
    Quote from future nurse jess
    Actually, I emailed them and they said thet final decisions would be made this Friday and we should be notified the week of the 7th.

    -Jess
    Good luck Jess!

    Yesterday I got an email from the program that I am hoping for. It was just to say that my application arrived and is complete and is in the specialty area being considered. They said that the callbacks for interviews are going to be around April first, (versus mid March).

    The wait, the wait.
    Gennaver
    p.s. and that is only for the interview call!
  6. by   Jess RN
    Quote from Gennaver
    Good luck Jess!

    Yesterday I got an email from the program that I am hoping for. It was just to say that my application arrived and is complete and is in the specialty area being considered. They said that the callbacks for interviews are going to be around April first, (versus mid March).

    The wait, the wait.
    Gennaver
    p.s. and that is only for the interview call!
    Gennaver-

    I would be going nuts if I were you!!! April seems so far away!! When will you hear if you are in? I just can't stand it- I want to know that everyone is in!!!! :chuckle

    -Jess
  7. by   Gennaver
    Quote from smile123
    If you qualify, there are scholarships and grants which you don't have to pay back. http://www.finaid.org/scholarships/ There are various loans for grads too: you can get $18,500/year for a Stafford loan, $6000/year for a Perkins loan

    Smile123
    Thanks for posting this Smile123,

    I knew that you could get $18,000.00 a year for graduate school but was unaware of a Perkins loan of $6,000.00 a year also.

    The program I am hoping for costs $24,000.00 for the portion for the graduate RN certificate, (15 months, technically two years) and I knew I would be able to have $36,000 through, ($18,000 x 2).

    Now I am going to look into the Perkins for grad school!!

    Currently I am using an alternate loan for my final year, (graduate in May). Yikes, the interest on that started right away, and its already at $500.00 since last August. Need to start paying on that puppy real fast!!

    Thing is, my back up ADN plan....sure the cost is lower because it is an ADN program but, I am not able to take any loans at all for that. I already have an Associates and will have the BA and do not have any MAP left. Pocket pinching!!

    Gennaver
  8. by   Gennaver
    Quote from future nurse jess
    Gennaver-

    I would be going nuts if I were you!!! April seems so far away!! When will you hear if you are in? I just can't stand it- I want to know that everyone is in!!!! :chuckle

    -Jess
    I know! I feel the same way and want to read all of us on the "got in" thread.

    Final decisions from UIC should be May 15th. If I need to put up my earnest money at the community college to hold my seat before then, I will. I am willing to give up the $100.00 to gaurantee me cc spot and then gladly call them up to give the spot away if accepted to UIC.

    Although, April first is also the early application deadline for Depaul's program and I may sneak in a last minute package to them too!!

    Working the odds Jess, I agree its good to have the back-ups.

    Gennaver
    p.s. as a total side note here....today me and my honey are going to get our marriage license and are eloping for a super simple ceremony on Saturday, I know, I know, not truly appropriate of this forum but, its a big deal to me, we all have so much on the stove right now!!
  9. by   Jess RN
    Quote from Gennaver
    p.s. as a total side note here....today me and my honey are going to get our marriage license and are eloping for a super simple ceremony on Saturday, I know, I know, not truly appropriate of this forum but, its a big deal to me, we all have so much on the stove right now!!

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    Congrats!!!!!! I eloped too! I love it!!! Many years of happiness to you and your sweetie!!

    -Jess
    Last edit by Jess RN on Mar 1, '05
  10. by   Gennaver
    Quote from future nurse jess
    :hatparty: :redpinkhe :hatparty: :redpinkhe :hatparty: :redpinkhe :hatparty: :redpinkhe :hatparty: :redpinkhe :hatparty: :redpinkhe :hatparty: :redpinkhe :hatparty: :redpinkhe :hatparty: :redpinkhe :hatparty: :redpinkhe :hatparty: :redpinkhe :hatparty: :redpinkhe

    Congrats!!!!!! I eloped too! I love it!!! Many years of happiness to you and your sweetie!!

    -Jess

    Thank you Jess!!

    Good to hear! The husband and wife officiants that we are going to also eloped themselves years ago. Its a nice fit. My family all knows about it and are happy for us.

    I am exited about it too though, and had to share here, thanks for the congrats!!
    Gennaver
  11. by   ChrisA
    Quote from Gennaver
    p.s. as a total side note here....today me and my honey are going to get our marriage license and are eloping for a super simple ceremony on Saturday, I know, I know, not truly appropriate of this forum but, its a big deal to me, we all have so much on the stove right now!!
    Congratualations! My wife and I didn't exactly elope, but we had only our immediate families and a handful of friends at ours. 12 guests altogether. My good friend Devin was the Deacon (his last job at our cathedral before going back to Massachusetts to be ordained a priest) and our friend Ann was the Priest. Small Episcopalian service on Dec. 28th, '04. Any bigger and it would have overwhelmed us! Small is better, if you ask me.
  12. by   max6well
    Its nice to see other members of Red Sox Nation on the board.

    I wish the season already started, I would be distracted from waiting for the one letter to come.
  13. by   pancake
    Hi Everyone,

    This morning I was in the post office mailing off my letter to UCSF asking them to reconsider my application, when I got a a call from SF-State, where I'm wait-listed, and I'm in! :chuckle

    What a relief! I still have my heart set on UCSF, but at 44 years old I feel anxious to get into a program before I reach retirement age :uhoh21:

    Of course I'm still holding out a slim hope that UCSF will call in off their wait-list.

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