Changes to the Nurse Anesthesia Council of Accreditation Standards - page 3

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• The COA approved the requirement for the degree granting institutions of nurse anesthesia programs to have regional accreditation. The COA determined this requirement will be reflected in its Eligibility for Accreditation... Read More


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    Quote from a4562
    I personally know multiple people in the program currently who have told me that the sharing of rooms is not a practice that is being done now. They have had nothing but good things to say about the program and were a large influence on my decision to attend the program. I can see how the regional accreditation may be a problem for students going back to school for their doctorate at some programs. I however, do not plan on continuing to get my doctorate after this degree.
    There is more to being regionally accredited than just the students being able to transfer their degree to another school. Regionally accreditation shows that a school has met stringent academic requirements, and is able to provide a high level of academic instruction. I am sure this is one of the reasons the COA is now requiring regionally accreditation.
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    This is true and the fact that Wolfords first time test takers pass percent is right up there with all other programa speaks to their ability to provide a program that develops and equips nurses with the ability to be crnas. Now if their first time test taker pass rate was much lower then all other programs, that would easily be a concern when they are reviewed for accreditation.
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    Quote from BOOSTISADRUG
    This is true and the fact that Wolfords first time test takers pass percent is right up there with all other programa speaks to their ability to provide a program that develops and equips nurses with the ability to be crnas. Now if their first time test taker pass rate was much lower then all other programs, that would easily be a concern when they are reviewed for accreditation.
    If the programs pass rate was much lower Wolford like every other program would lose its accreditation. Every decent program should have at least 90+% pass rate for first time test takers.

    Pass rates are a poor indicator of how well someone is prepared to be a CRNA. Pass rates are around 90% right now. When a CRNA graduate can work independently/take solo call, perform their own PNBs, CVLs, run codes on their own, independently manage pre-op/post-ops, and fluidly transition from one speciality service to another then that graduate has gotten a great education. There is almost nothing that I have heard about Wolford that would lead me to believe that is the case at this time. I am glad to hear they are working to resolve their earlier discrepancies. I still recommend pre-crna adopt a wait and see approach to this program and not apply until they at least they receive their regional accreditation.
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    Just to be fair to Wolford: Assuming the attrition rates and pass rates are correct Wolford University has an impressive rate of low attrition rates and high board pass rates. Either rate is not spectacular on its own, but together makes for a strong indicator of preparing students for their board exam.

    I could not verify these rates on their website.
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    Quote from wtbcrna
    Just to be fair to Wolford: Assuming the attrition rates and pass rates are correct Wolford University has an impressive rate of low attrition rates and high board pass rates. Either rate is not spectacular on its own, but together makes for a strong indicator of preparing students for their board exam.

    I could not verify these rates on their website.
    I appreciate you attempting to say something nice about Wolford College. :-)
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    A friendly debate about anything is always a good time. I always enjoy having discussions with other knowledgeable people and being shown different ideas and facts to consider. Thanks also for the pharmacology notes.
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    wtbcrna,

    I am sorry this comment has nothing to do with your topic but I have seen your post from another topic about air force nursing but the comments were closed. Anyways, I just finished nursing school and went to go inquire about air force nursing everything sounded very appealing, one thing that is holding me back to further my application is that I have a daughter. I am a single mother and he gave me this whole speech that it wouldn't be a problem I would just have to show a family plan. Another thing is that I don't want to get an order where I would have to be away from my child for a long period of time even though at times she may come with me but there may be times she won't. I can do weeks but I can't do months. I just wanted some more insight of what I would be getting myself into and I don't want to join and feel like it was a mistake.

    PS: I couldn't PM you unless I post like 15 topics or something.

    Thank you!!!
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    Quote from AmberBSN13
    wtbcrna,

    I am sorry this comment has nothing to do with your topic but I have seen your post from another topic about air force nursing but the comments were closed. Anyways, I just finished nursing school and went to go inquire about air force nursing everything sounded very appealing, one thing that is holding me back to further my application is that I have a daughter. I am a single mother and he gave me this whole speech that it wouldn't be a problem I would just have to show a family plan. Another thing is that I don't want to get an order where I would have to be away from my child for a long period of time even though at times she may come with me but there may be times she won't. I can do weeks but I can't do months. I just wanted some more insight of what I would be getting myself into and I don't want to join and feel like it was a mistake.

    PS: I couldn't PM you unless I post like 15 topics or something.

    Thank you!!!
    I don't think the AF would be a right fit for you based on what you said in your post. You can expect to be up for deployment every 18 months for 6+months at a time. Very few general nurses go that often, but it can and has happened to some nurses. You also need to realize that you would need to leave your child with someone at a moments notice for recalls, if you had to stay late, "military emergencies/needs" etc. IMO military life is not conducive for single parents just starting out in the military. I would suggest you wait until USPHS opens back up for nursing applicants and get a civilian job until that time, if you are interested in benefits of being in the military without the need to leave your child for months at a time.

    FYI: The military forum has lots of posts that you maybe interested in.
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    Quote from BOOSTISADRUG
    Well I can't say much about the lawsuit since those can last on forever, but from the graduating class to the 1st semester class I spoke with, the sharing of rooms is not a current practice. The school has multiple sites that are not affiliated with collier including an all crna practice. And hopefully the regional accreditation hopefully will be resolved soon from what I've been hearing.
    I checked into Wolford's 'rumored' regional accreditation process, but was unable to substantiate it. The Southern Association of Colleges and Schools (where Wolford would get its regional accreditation) does not currently show that Wolford is a candidate or an applicant for regional accreditation. See list here http://www.sacscoc.org/pdf/webmemlist.pdf

    That's disheartening, since Wolford has been telling its current and potential students that "the application is in, we're just waiting on a response" since early 2012.
    Last edit by WildflowerRN on Apr 1, '13 : Reason: misspelling, clarification
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    Having completed regional accreditation a couple of times, I suspect they are having trouble meeting the standards. The regional accreditors are going to require that they demonstrate an institutional commitment to graduate education. This requires a substantial financial investment in academic support resources and doctorally prepared faculty, and I'm sure the current lawsuit does not help. Attrition and board pass rates are nice, but only a small part of the picture for regional accreditation.


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