Where are all the Direct Entry students??? - page 4

Hi everyone! I'm wondering where all the Direct Entry students are? Perhaps you are all swamped this semester, and unable to chat, but I'm getting ready to start my prereqs and need a little... Read More

  1. by   DoveNoir
    BTW- MSJ- what one book did they commit to?
  2. by   MSJ2007
    Fundamentals of Nursing -- Potter and Perry 6th edition

    ISBN: 0323031587
    ISBN-13: 9780323031585
    Title: Nursing Skills Online for Fundamentals of Nursing (User Guide, Access Code and Textbook Package)
    Qty: 1
    Price: $115.00
    Total Price: $115.00

    Make sure you get the online Nursing Skills Online too. It's required.

    www.elsevier.com

    Hope this helps. I noticed that our schedules are posted online, but I haven't received the registration in the mail yet.
  3. by   lifesacomedy
    I am in the process of looking for DE schools that end with an FNP (vs. a CNS). I have found a program that I love at Emory University, but will only be able to attend if offered a MEGA-scholarship. The same goes for Yale. I love love love the sounds of the program, but just don't know how I would be able to afford it.

    Could you shed some light on how you make it happen? I'm in eternal admiration of people who make it work. I just need to know how! Thanks!
  4. by   Asherah
    [FONT=Franklin Gothic Medium]I have applied to two BSN/MSN (DE) combo programs and if I plan to attend either one I will be using both federal and private loans. I would say that this what most people need to do, to pay for astronomical tuition as well as living expenses for the duration. There are also loan forgiveness programs where universities pair with hospitals so you can commit to working for the hospital even before you start your academic program, in exchange for tuition reimbursement (obvious pros/cons to consider there).

    [FONT=Franklin Gothic Medium]As far as preferred private lenders, I haven't gotten that far yet, but I'm sure some individuals can offer insight into some that are better than others.

    [FONT=Franklin Gothic Medium]Good luck!
  5. by   lifesacomedy
    Thank you for your response. That is kind of what I was afraid of. It makes me so wary, although more and more people do it every year. I wonder what kind of debt load one can reasonably carry after school and make it work.

    I guess we'll see! Thanks for your insight. Maybe I'll apply to Yale afterall. Go big, or go home...that's one way to look at it.
  6. by   romie
    Hey there,

    I can tell you from experience that all of the direct entry or graduate entry students are out there busting their butts off. I am at UIC and before starting their GEP nursing program, I was on this site every day. Now I don't even have time to do laundry, read the newspaper/ watch the news. It's all eat, sleep, study, pack your bags for clinicals or lecture or outpaitent experiences, ad naseum.

    good luck to those of you trying to get in. It is a rewarding experience and you can get in if you imagine, really believe it a possiblity for yourself. Don't go into your interviews thinkging, "I wont get in", dont send out your applications with any doubts. You can and will get in!!
  7. by   lovingpecola
    I understand your concerns about the debt load...it is astonomical, to say the least. I read somewhere that your total debt from school loans should not be more than your expected starting salary per year...another figure that I've read is that no more than 10% of your monthly income should have to be for repaying school loans. All of that being said, the reality is that this education might cost you more than what's recommended...and only you can decide if it's worth it! I decided that it is worth it, but I certainly do not take this debt load lightly, and I am determined to get most of these loans paid off through government programs when I start working/researching/teaching.

    Good Luck!
    LP
  8. by   toponarcosis
    hallo , i am a Direct Entry students from china, and it's my last year
  9. by   patrick1rn
    Do you students who are doing a DE into a FNP program have any medical or nursing experience at all to begin with . At all ? I guess since people want to go straight into working as a FNP and what have you. I wish you all the best of luck, but to be honest I feel that you need to work as a RN for several yrs at 1st before you start grad school. 2 yrs full time at least in my opinion. I dont know Im not an academia. I know that working as a RN and working as a FNP is clinically significantly different, but the things you learn as a RN just from seeing those patients with those common and not so common diseases and seeing what CHF vs Cellulitis VS venous insuffiency makes a world of difference. Seeing what the MD or the NP prescribes for the patient and seeing the disease first hand really affords the RN a chance to see how that disease process is treated, what works, what doesnt, what other lab tests you should order and what is not clinically significant. No way can they teach you all that in a DE MSN/FNP program. It would take years, but then again I do not have your curriculum in front of me. I can speak for my regular FNP program and myself where I went to school as a Army medic in the US army to learn how to be a medic, worked under several physicians both in combat and in peacetime for 6 plus yrs, got my associates degree as a RN , worked and went back to school for my BSN, worked, deployed again as a medic to afghanistan and worked in the medical field over in the war, then coming home to start my FNP program and still working in the MICU part time while i am in school. I assume you people go to school full time, study all the time, dont have a job and make school your job.. I would hope so anyway. I dont mean to sound condescending in any way, but their is no way you can learn what is normal good or normal bad or bad bad or good good unless you work as a RN for a while. But Best of luck with your programs and wish me best of luck with mine, I have ten months to go till I am done with my FNP program !!!!!!!!
  10. by   student1000
    Patrick1RN wrote: " Do you students who are doing a DE into a FNP program have any medical or nursing experience at all to begin with " Rest of post is above.

    May I suggest you look into what a DE program requires before you and others shoot it down? (Also this isn't the thread to be discouraging DE students on). We are required to have as many clinical hours as regular RN students just in a shorter amount of time. Part of the reason getting our RN doesn't take 4 years is we already have all of the gen ed requirements out of the way and science prep classes BEFORE we can apply to the programs. A lot of programs that are DE require their students to become RNs and then work for a minimum of a year, some specialities 2 years BEFORE you can start taking your MSN classes. I agree MSNs should have experience as an RN so that they can understand what nursing is all about and gain experience.

    School is my job and is all I and my classmates do unless they are also working part time or less in the hospital as CNAs/research with patients/other patient contact. My program didn't require people to be CNAs just to show they had worked in healthcare and knew what nursing was about. Just as the program states applicants are non-nursing students but you have to start somewhere just like regular RN students.

    Best of luck to you.
    Last edit by student1000 on Dec 13, '07 : Reason: to be clearer
  11. by   Asherah
    Quote from patrick1rn
    Do you students who are doing a DE into a FNP program have any medical or nursing experience at all to begin with . At all ? I guess since people want to go straight into working as a FNP and what have you. I wish you all the best of luck, but to be honest I feel that you need to work as a RN for several yrs at 1st before you start grad school. 2 yrs full time at least in my opinion. I dont know Im not an academia. I know that working as a RN and working as a FNP is clinically significantly different, but the things you learn as a RN just from seeing those patients with those common and not so common diseases and seeing what CHF vs Cellulitis VS venous insuffiency makes a world of difference. Seeing what the MD or the NP prescribes for the patient and seeing the disease first hand really affords the RN a chance to see how that disease process is treated, what works, what doesnt, what other lab tests you should order and what is not clinically significant. No way can they teach you all that in a DE MSN/FNP program. It would take years, but then again I do not have your curriculum in front of me. I can speak for my regular FNP program and myself where I went to school as a Army medic in the US army to learn how to be a medic, worked under several physicians both in combat and in peacetime for 6 plus yrs, got my associates degree as a RN , worked and went back to school for my BSN, worked, deployed again as a medic to afghanistan and worked in the medical field over in the war, then coming home to start my FNP program and still working in the MICU part time while i am in school. I assume you people go to school full time, study all the time, dont have a job and make school your job.. I would hope so anyway. I dont mean to sound condescending in any way, but their is no way you can learn what is normal good or normal bad or bad bad or good good unless you work as a RN for a while. But Best of luck with your programs and wish me best of luck with mine, I have ten months to go till I am done with my FNP program !!!!!!!!
    Patrick,

    So with this tedious post (sans paragraphs and quite painful on the eyes) you've decided to insult potential and current DEMSN students and their choice of academic paths while claiming that you have no idea of the various program curricula and what the respective programs entail.

    Good for you and your work ethic, please feel free to share any advice or tips you may have for many of the students who succeed here and support each other, but please leave the rest at home.
    Last edit by Asherah on Dec 13, '07
  12. by   student1000
    Asherah,
    My apologies that my last post was so painful on the eyes. I had directly quoted the original post that I was replying to (see the post above mine). As I stated originally in my post, Patrick1RN should look into what a DE program entails? I am CURRENTLY a DE student so I know what it all about. I also agree that people should be supportive especially in this thread which I noted.
  13. by   Asherah
    Quote from student1000
    Asherah,
    My apologies that my last post was so painful on the eyes. I had directly quoted the original post that I was replying to (see the post above mine). As I stated originally in my post, Patrick1RN should look into what a DE program entails? I am CURRENTLY a DE student so I know what it all about. I also agree that people should be supportive especially in this thread which I noted.
    Student...

    No, I was responding to the poster above you, the same one you replied to. I quoted his post in my response.

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