masters degrees without ever working at the bedside?! - page 4

by nightengalegoddess 7,913 Views | 38 Comments

Just found out in my state that anyone....lawyer, baker, housewife...etc; may complete a quick, streamline program which makes them a Master Of Nursing Sciences without ever having been a bedside RN. Does this mean that there... Read More


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    I worked with a graduate of one such program back in 1985.
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    Experience is the most useful, merciless and exacting teacher you will ever have.
    You can't learn to swim by just reading the swimming manual.
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    Quote from mindlor
    I was in the direct enty program at Columbia University in NYC. Their position is that being an ARNP had absolutely nothing to do with being a bedside nurse.

    To make a long story short....I left the program, am getting a year of bedside exp, and then going to a different school for my ARNP......
    I work with some of the Columbia M.S. students and am very disturbed by what a mediocre school it has become.
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    Quote from llg
    I worked with a graduate of one such program back in 1985.
    Really? I stand corrected! The CNL program came around later, but I didn't realize direct-entry MSN programs were around back before Dirty Dancing made it to the big screen.
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    Quote from mariebailey
    Really? I stand corrected! The CNL program came around later, but I didn't realize direct-entry MSN programs were around back before Dirty Dancing made it to the big screen.
    Yes, the CNL role, specifically, is a fairly recent invention -- but direct entry programs preparing people in advanced practice roles have been aroud for decades.
    Last edit by elkpark on Nov 16, '12
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    Quote from RNperdiem
    Experience is the most useful, merciless and exacting teacher you will ever have.
    You can't learn to swim by just reading the swimming manual.
    Of course, nursing is not swimming. It wouldn't hurt to take some initiative & look something up every now & then.
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    Quote from mariebailey
    Of course, nursing is not swimming. It wouldn't hurt to take some initiative & look something up every now & then.
    ????What does this mean?
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    Quote from subee
    ????What does this mean?
    As you can probably see from previous posts, I am prone to impulsive typing; I apologize. I think my reply was for the wrong audience. I know nurses with several decades of experience who never seem interested in getting up to speed on the latest recommendations, guidelines, etc., & some seem resistant to change. I think there needs to be a balance b/t education (formal & informal) & experience. I think experience can teach a great deal only if you are receptive to learning.
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    In the planning stages of my career transition from IT to healthcare, I researched the direct programs very carefully, and I have to admit as a middle-aged male I found that route very attractive. I figured I already had undergraduate and graduate studies under my belt, so why not look for the quickest route possible - I'm not getting any younger. However, after careful analysis I decided the best route was to take it slowly, obtain the RN, and pay my dues a bit before the NP stage. I know in my profession you don't normally put a newbie in charge of the servers or routers, so why would the Nursing profession (or anyone in the healthcare realm for that matter) readily accept an NP that has not proven themselves competent in the field.


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