Duke DNP

  1. Duke is supposed to announce a new DNP program this week or next, the dean has made the decision. I know there are other threads on the topic, but they were just exercises in theory. Well it is now a reality in my school and I am leaning towards just ignoring it. It has no real pay off . Many of the classes I have already taken are going to be moved into the DNP program. I will not be able to teach as a full professor, get admitting privileges, more money. My friend at school said that more education is better, and this is supposed to be a clinical degree. I told him that in the 22 hours of credit this would cost, I could get 2000 hours of clinical experience, which is the only thing I feel this program has going for it. What do y'all have to say?
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  2. 13 Comments

  3. by   np_wannabe
    I'm not sure what to think about it either. This is the last year University of Florida will even offer the MSN. As of Fall 2007, they will ONLY offer the DNP. Most of the time, the more education the better, but it does not seem to be the case with this degree if you ask me. For me, that means I will have to do the DNP or something online. I'm reluctant to take NP classes online, so I guess it's DNP for me.....:uhoh21:
  4. by   nursetim
    In our case the DNP will be online only, I think. If you don't want to take NP online then wouldn't DNP fall in the same situation. It's my understanding that this is an advanced practice degree that requires certification.
  5. by   np_wannabe
    [quote=nursetim]If you don't want to take NP online then wouldn't DNP fall in the same situation. quote]

    No, the DNP is offered in traditional class-room style. Basically, UF's MSN degree (a 54-credit program) is being replaced by the DNP program (93 credits).

    So, if you want to be a Nurse Pracitioner and are going to UF, it's the DNP or nothing.
  6. by   happygolucky2
    Really, so Duke will be getting a DNP program as well? Is the DNP to basically work in concert with the FNP, but at a doctoral prepared level? Where will the PhD fall in place...for educators?
  7. by   nursetim
    We already have a PhD program for nursing. The DNP is supposed to be "clinical". Yup the NP will be included in the program.
  8. by   inthesticks
    Anyone here in the Duke DNP program?

    What do you like about it? What do you dislike about it?

    I'm considering Duke for its proximity, online format, and coolness factor.

    Thanks!
  9. by   nursetim
    The coolness factor isn't there. Duke skates on it's reputation, not in content. If I had it to do over again, no way on earth would I. All I can say is that the name on my degree better do me more good than the edumacation I got there. Duke has great spin and they have been on the forefront of medicine. But remember that the nursing program turned down the original PA idea for some, unkown to me, reason, and we all know what a big flop the PA's turned out to be. (did ya get a note of sarcasim there?)
  10. by   inthesticks
    Thanks for the reply nursetim! I caught the sarcasm. Many of my colleagues are PAs; we give each other a hard time all the time! They are a great bunch of folks. I appreciate your Duke assessment!
  11. by   inthesticks
    Thanks for the reply nursetim. I caught the sarcasm . Many of my colleagues are PAs; and we give each other a hard time daily. A great bunch of folks! I appreciate your Duke assessment. Man, its just tough to figure out which online program to go to. They all seem so weak clinically speaking. I want a program that will make me a better clinician. Maybe, I better wait and see what happens; let the smoke settle.
  12. by   nursetim
    The dnp was supposed to be a clinical terminal degree, now not so much. The best way is to go to a PA program. That will make you strong clinically, IMHO. Good luck.
  13. by   marachne
    Quote from nursetim
    The coolness factor isn't there. Duke skates on it's reputation, not in content. If I had it to do over again, no way on earth would I. All I can say is that the name on my degree better do me more good than the edumacation I got there. Duke has great spin and they have been on the forefront of medicine. But remember that the nursing program turned down the original PA idea for some, unkown to me, reason, and we all know what a big flop the PA's turned out to be. (did ya get a note of sarcasim there?)
    Hi, question about Duke, not exactly related but maybe you have an opinion nonetheless...

    I am currently in a PhD program on the other side of the continent. I am looking at post-docs and Duke is one of the places I've been talking to. From my conversations, I am very impressed and feel like it would be a good fit (it would be through the Center on Aging and hopefully with co-mentors from the SON and the Center for Palliative Care -- the ability to work interdisciplinary and with some end-of-life experts are among the attractions).

    Any comments about the Duke experience which you think are relevant would be appreciated.

    Oh and about going for a PA -- doesn't make sense to me since PAs always have to work under someone else's license as opposed to NPs who can work, and bill independently in many states. Plus, I think our advantage is that we bring the nursing model to care.
  14. by   nursetim
    I would go with my gut were I you. You most likely be working with Mary Champagne and she is teriffic. So in your case I will reverse myself and recomend duke. But if the chance to work with Mary were taken off the table, I'd run in another direction unless they have the only program you are interested.

    As to the PA thing. I just like thier training better is all. I personally don't see myself with my own practice anyway. Plus the billing restrictions might be changing, but I could be wrong (it wouldn't be the fifth time).

    Good luck.

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