Mandatory Flu Vaccines- How do you feel? - page 20
Anyone else upset by the requirement to take flu vaccine or else... not even a mask option??? Only way out is a MD note stating "severe" allergy. Why is it we can't force our patients but our hospitals can force us. I am... Read More
- 1Jan 22, '13 by dcookRNExactly! How can you know. When they say the flu shot is 62% effective, they are counting effective as including those who were vaccinated and got the flu anyways but did not require hospitalization. It is very poorly executed, presented and is quite misleading.
- 2Jan 22, '13 by dcookRNThe flu vaccine is approved for pregnant and nursing women, and the package inserts for most varieties clearly states these populations have not been studied, yet approving it for them certainly implies safety. Patients deserve quality safety studies for any drug they are given, as to most people, it is assumed that drugs are proven safe or they would not be given. There is more than adequate evidence that pharmaceutical companies commonly produce drugs that end up killing and harming people, aggressively market them, after approval based on safety studies they perform themselves. In the case of vaccines they also aggressively lobby to get them mandated, and have absolutely zero liability should someone be harmed, which has happened plenty of times. There is risk associated with any drug, including vaccines. Many nurses choose to work at facilities that do not require flu vaccines when they are hired, but the policy is changed at some later point. When a nurse is given a drug, they ARE a patient.
- 1Jan 31, '13 by BSNbeDONEI have never had the flu vaccine nor have I ever had the flu. I've been in nursing for 27 years this year. My father, retired Army SGT, had to have the vaccine and of course, he got the flu every year. My brother, a Navy commander, has to take the vaccine and of course, he gets the flu. My kids and myself, we NEVER get the vaccine, and I'm blessed to say, we've never had the flu. My kids are grown now and make their own decisions. They choose not to get it. In our family, our evidence-based theory is working a whole lot better for me and the kids than it is for my brother and my dad.......just saying......
Whether the vaccine causes the flu or not, my take on it is, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". Sometimes it pays to leave well-enough alone.
- 0Feb 2, '13 by mariebaileyQuote from NicuGalGood point. There is plenty of research to support the likelihood that, even if the flu vaccine did not prevent the flu altogether, it may have reduced the severity of it. This is legitimate assumption.We had mandated flu vaccines, and guess what...we had the flu sweep thru our unit like wildfire starting in December and still going. At least we aren't as sick as we could have been.
- 0Feb 2, '13 by olddraggerWhen you say the flu sweep through your unit--was it confirmed to be influenza or was it flu like symptoms? Sorry I dont mean to be a pain--but since this is a vaccination thread I though it would be important to compare apples to apples.
I too, are seeing many employees off with flu like illnesses and some with confirmed influenza ( per quick test) and all have had the vaccination.
Guess what--the hospital still wanted them to work--even though they had been afebrile for only1 day. Most were out for 2 days only. Came to work still feeling bad and most with a cough. Go figure....
- 0Feb 15, '13 by lolakbolakIts mandatory for us because its a money maker. There is no proof that if you get the vaccine you won't get sick again. Great way to make money.
What happens if you get the vaccine and something harmful happens to you, will the pharmaceutical company be liable? No
Its mandatory because 1. money 2. they know that many workers refuse it
- 2Feb 17, '13 by mariebaileyQuote from dcookRNWrong. Efficacy percentages do not include those who received the flu shot & still got the flu at all.Exactly! How can you know. When they say the flu shot is 62% effective, they are counting effective as including those who were vaccinated and got the flu anyways but did not require hospitalization. It is very poorly executed, presented and is quite misleading.
- 2Feb 17, '13 by mariebaileyQuote from dcookRNThe flu shot has been given to millions of pregnant women for several years, and the flu shot has not been shown to cause harm in pregnant women or their babies. This is such a high risk population in flu season that it is important that we as nurses advocate for them to get the flu shot.The flu vaccine is approved for pregnant and nursing women, and the package inserts for most varieties clearly states these populations have not been studied, yet approving it for them certainly implies safety. Patients deserve quality safety studies for any drug they are given, as to most people, it is assumed that drugs are proven safe or they would not be given.
There are many medications labeled Category C that we readily give to pregnant women. Not studied in clinical trials does not = not safe.