Quote from Winterblue09
vs linfields 144 hours
Linfield has changed their curriculum and increased their clinical hours. I graduated in December 2011 and all of the students starting Fall 2011 and afterwards are using the new curriculum and increased clinical hours, though I don't know what they are.
But even then is it not better to graduate knowing what you're doing than to not know how to insert a catheter or better yet work a suction?
We all learned how to insert catheters in the lab, though whether we got experience on the job really depended on your clinical placements and what opportunities you had. But, I expect that's the same for all schools. I actually talked with a MedSurg manager recently and she didn't seem to think it was an issue, anyway, because foleys are a lot more rare these days since medicare won't pay for hospital acquired UTI's anymore and it's an easy skill to practice on the job.
Plus Most hospitals want you to have a minimum of 6 months of experience, well there you have it at the time of graduation
Unfortunately, in the current market, most hospitals are requiring a minimum of a year's work as an RN... student clinicals do not count because you are not a RN while you are a student. A few jobs at Kaiser only require 9 months experience. Jobs for all new grads are rare and are equally hard to find, because all new grads lack any experience as an RN.
You really don't get much support from the faculty and you should probably go into the program having no opinions or prior knowledge because if you go into the program with knowledge of nursing or a brain to think for yourself faculty start to give you the evil eye because you question them when they are teaching wrong information.
Linfield is far from perfect, but this was not my experience at all. My core instructors who taught the most important classes were excellent. Others were hit and miss. Clinical instructors are hit and miss, too, but for the most part I had really good instructors. I actually felt like we had a lot more student support through Linfield than I would have received at OHSU. Ken offers student academic support and helps all of the students get through the first couple of semesters with tips/tricks for the monster papers, APA, med calcs, etc. I thought that kind of support is pretty unique to Linfield and he was fabulous.
Here's a good example we had a PHD prepared well this instructor was in the process of a pHD progam and was teaching med-surg nephrology, had NO idea what they were saying. A student pretty much had to step in to clarify and basically teach the class the nephrology section of med surg.
Interesting. You obviously have had a different instructor than I had... I'm sorry that you had such a bad experience... my med surg instructor was absolutely fabulous.
If I knew then what I know today I could have saved myself a lot of money!
There's no doubt it is an expensive program, although all students do receive transfer scholarships (or did as of a year and a half ago)... so it's really not as expensive as it looks. I do think that they have not put the nursing students' tuition money towards the equipment and found that very frustrating. The labs definitely did not have the equipment that they should have had when you consider the amount of $$$ we paid in tuition. I think that our tuition funds primarily went to the MAC campus and don't think that we got what we paid for... but I don't know any student who pays that kind of money for their education and really feels like it was utilized the best way possible.
All I can say is choose wisely. If you end up in their program you should find a way to get more clinical time in....maybe work on the side as a CNA2 or a tech on the floor or better yet a HUC (these guys see it all).
I agree that it is best if you can work as a CNA2 or something while you are in school - specifically at the VA. In this market, jobs are very very difficult to find. The students who worked at the VA all got jobs. Several others got hired for the Salem residency... but the majority of us have either had to leave the state or are still looking for work.
I have frustrations with the program, too, and was incredibly frustrated that I didn't get more clinical experience, but apparently it is still perceived as a good program within the medical community. I have been told by multiple physicians that Linfield has a good reputation. It is my hope that the new curriculum is solving some of these issues.