I ask this GREAT Nursing Community to Please Help Me with Picking Up the Pieces - page 2

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    Thank you daVinciNurse for replying to my post. Now that I reread what you quoted of what I wrote I must make a clarification. Instead of saying that I have yet to find RN OR training programs that are close by the Northern NJ area it should have been said like this, I have yet to find a Perioperative Nursing Program you pay for by the Northern NJ area.

    I saw examples of programs like these being offered at community colleges. The purpose of the program was to train and prepare a RN to practice independently at a beginning level in the perioperative setting. It is a program you sign up for which teaches a RN the basics and you pay for it out of your pocket. Sorry for the mix up.

    You are right about Saint Barnabas. I saw on their website where they say “SBHCS challenges you to accept a career in perioperative nursing and work side by side with renowned surgeons. Whether you are an experienced registered nurse who has always wondered what OR nursing could offer or a new graduate that is ready to commit to a lifetime of learning, the opportunities are awaiting you. SBHCS offers an Operating Room Training Program that teaches you to function in the operating room as both a Scrub and Circulating Nurse”. After I applied to a position for RN OR at SBHCS where it said experience preferred I followed up with a letter. In that letter I printed out the web page with the previous quoted saying and highlighted it but never heard back from them.

    I will try contacting the individual perioperative educators in the individual facilities. Besides getting basic info from the perioperative educators can you think of anything I could say to them to help with my chances?

    I was seriously thinking of joining AORN to help with advice and networking. I see for a standard membership it is $125.00. If I do it I will see it as an investment in my future and know that it is a step in the right direction.

    Thank you again and I send you my best for your helpful support.
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    I would apply to other hospitals even if they don't advertise OR residency programs. There are so many hospitals in the NYC, just keep trying. You mentioned Princeton. Do you live in Jersey? Just curious. I'm originally from NY but live in NC now. All I can say is don't give up. Also, like you, I've had some mental health issues so I do understand what you're going through. Just know that the OR can be stressful. Some days can be very hard and emotions can be difficult to control.
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    "I was seriously thinking of joining AORN to help with advice and networking. I see for a standard membership it is $125.00. If I do it I will see it as an investment in my future and know that it is a step in the right direction."

    It could be the best $$ you've invested. There is so much information available. Also, you can place this on your resume. Many hospitals look positively at this.

    Sorry, I skimmed through the postings, so disregard the last posting about where you live....
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    I would keep trying and applying, despite a recent history of getting turned down for no experience. Hiring trends and the economy, in my job-searching experience (I've been looking at the job sites of all the hospitals constantly, despite having an OR job) (because I enjoy sitting on my butt on the internet too much), have gone up and down, even within a year's time. No one wanted me when I first graduated nursing school in 2009 (except at a SNF), but just a few months later, the ads came back with different requirements for experience. They could change in 6 months. But anyway... I had a clinical in "leadership and management" in an OR in my last semester of nursing school.... it served no purpose but getting my face and some talk-time in with the manager I shadowed, because I got no hands-on clinical experience there. And when I contacted her personally for an interview (the front desk wouldn't have even let me apply til I told her I personally talked to the OR director), I had to sell myself to her - over the phone, and in person twice. I think what gave me the confidence was my attitude about the job, not the list of skills I had (which I didn't have).

    So it all depends on the situation. My point is, keep trying and don't give up and don't let anyone else tell you you can't.
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    AND, as far as the stress in the O.R. vs. the stress working med/surg.... It is stress of a different kind. But it is stress that comes and goes quickly! If you're a circulator, anyway.... I can't speak from a scrub perspective. You get one patient at a time, you see the outcome immediately, and that patient leaves. Some cases take 5 minutes, others take 5 hours. The stress is getting ready for it, dealing with stuff within the case, maybe having to deal with the crazy personalities of the surgeons (I shouldn't say "crazy", because I believe some of them are seriously bipolar), etc. And you get asked to do 10 things at once sometimes, and you get to prioritize. But you're prioritzing tasks for ONE temporary patient...Not prioritizing tasks for each of 8 patients at a time, all of whom might be there for 3 days or more. When you're done, you're done, you can let that case go and tackle the next one.

    It is stressful being new, but once you learn it, that stress, of course, goes away.

    Back to the "personality disorders" (both diagnosed and undiagnosed, treated and untreated).... everyone's got them to some degree or the other. I personally deal well with the surgeons with off-kilter personalities because these guys are not the worst people I've ever had to deal with in my life. Plus, I'm a moody, tempermental person myself, and I understand what sets me off and what makes me a good person despite those occasional episodes The docs go through the same thing. And I personally have this attitude - "You hurt the ones you love the most." I yell at people at home, but not the people at work (yet). I love the people at home. So of COURSE, when the surgeons get nasty with me or someone else, that only means they LOVE us (right?...) (haha)

    I just love this job and I am not going to let anyone ruin it for me.
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    Thank you mrsilly for responding to my post and sharing that you understand where I am coming from, being that you had to go through some mental health issues yourself. As long as we get through our issues the experience makes us stronger and better able to help those who find themselves in similar situations. I have my eyes all over NYC hospitals and got one call back from New York-Presbyterian/Weill Cornell Medical Center for a spot in their OR as a RN but nothing ever came of it. I will keep trying as you mentioned.

    I am not giving up anytime soon and thanks to help from people like you it keeps that spark alive. My mother and boyfriend have property down on the border of NC and SC. I think it is by Little River, SC. From what I heard the money is good for nursing down there and the expense of living is less than up North.

    I understand the OR can be stressful but feel it is a different kind of stress then what you find as a floor nurse. I give lots of credit to those that do floor nursing. My hat goes off to all of you for all your hard work. I think I can handle the stress better in a OR setting versus a floor setting and this is one of the reasons I want to pursue OR nursing.

    I agree with you on joining AORN and placing it on my resume. It seems like a great organization and joining it can only help. Thanks again for your input and I wish you the best in life and in your career.
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    Thank you LAM2010 for responding to my post. It looks like as a new RN grad you got a job in the OR right away so I will use that as hope for me as well. Congratulations on getting a position and using your networking skills plus attitude to do so.

    I appreciate all your comments about how your days are working in the OR. I value all perspectives I can get about how the OR operates which further validates that I am going in the right direction with my career goals. In my comment to mrsilly I write about the stress of OR nursing versus floor nursing and your comments seem to reinforce what I have said which is nice.

    I agree with if you understand yourself well then you can deal better with people in general. This also helps when you are dealing with difficult personalities. Thank you for ALL your valuable input. From your attitude that is carried through your words I can see why the OR director hired you and I wish you nothing but the best!
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    Did you ever get a position in the OR?


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