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My birthing unit is suddenly closing. There are 75 nurses on my unit and most of us found out by reading the paper :angryfire . Actually my sister called me from work (she works at same hospital,... Read More

  1. by   zacsmimi
    jrring
    its so frustrating :angryfire when management does something so terribly poorly - but I have to agree with the people who said you oughtta blaze a trail outta there.
    Poor judgement and lack of concern for their employees isnt going to change... SHINING STARS??? Do they think they are talking to kindergarteners? Maybe they should call them PERFECT PATSY's. That's more fitting.
    The place that is gonna take your "icky" patients - don't feel like you shouldn't work there with them! One nurse's ignorance doesn't necessarily reflect the entire unit! You have the chance to go in there and teach those people how rewarding this kind of patient can be!!
    Short of starvation NO WAY would I stay where you are. And if they are one of the TOP hospitals, it wont be long...GOOD LUCK
  2. by   gwenhyfar
    [QUOTE=cjan]Just wait till they find out what they are in for. Bariatric patients

    I know from experience this is right as well. When we added Bari patients we were told by the main Dr. their care was "Nursing 101." BS. They have so many problems just from their bodies supporting all the weight, causing thinning tissues, increased intra-abd pressure, etc. If they think this is an easy transition, think again. IT AIN'T.
    I agree you were treated unethically. Unfortunately, there are a lot of people that really don't care. :angryfire
  3. by   asher315
    Believe it or not...I had TWO different OB/NSY units close on me. The first time (termination of a civilian contract with the Air Force) I found work in another OB unit after about 12 weeks. The second time, the hospital lost their OB docs and decided to open a pain management clinic in its place. I stayed there and worked for 2 years in the clinic, It was sooo different but I loved it. Then they closed the pain clinic and reopened the OB unit but I had already moved on to another hospital, back in OB again. Try something new or stay with OB, just follow your heart. Good luck!
  4. by   Ethel
    Quote from cjan
    Just wait till they find out what they are in for. Bariatric patients are high risk surgical patients. Many tend to be non-compliant. They will need all new bariatric equipment. The patients are very intensive post-op with many spending a few days in icu on a vent before hitting the floor. Most have had a prior list of major health problems. Our floor added bariatric patients about 8 months ago. For the shining stars that stay make sure they provide adaquate training and education on these bariatric patients as part of the deal. Hope you can come to the right decision. Sorry your hospital has done this.
    What are Bariatric patients I have never heard of the term. Maybe in South Africa we call them something else.????
  5. by   SmilingBluEyes
    "Bariatric" refers to very heavy or Obese patients.
  6. by   dollydettol
    :chuckle i have done a bit of everything like most folks and i am sure you will be just fine in icu need to think on your feet can save a life?? go for it
    Quote from jrring1019
    my birthing unit is suddenly closing. there are 75 nurses on my unit and most of us found out by reading the paper :angryfire . actually my sister called me from work (she works at same hospital, different unit) and told me. no advance notice, not one member of management called anyone to tell them. there were several meetings the next 2 days to discuss our options... there was very little info and a whole lot of fluff. "we are so sorry how everyone found out>>>> blah, blah , blah." the hospital is going to open a bariatric surgical service on our unit and we were told we would be "shining stars" if we stayed on and worked there :angryfire !! i am on the fence as to what to do. there are plenty of other floors to work on, maybe icu or er? all of the regional affiliated hospitals have a few ob jobs, and with seniority i might get one. in the meeting they talked and talked about incentives and severance packages. ok, what are the incentives? "we don't have any numbers." followed by "come next week and tell us what you want to do" well, how can we know without all of the info. also to go to a regional hospital ( and stick with ob) we take a pay cut. funny thing, they just opened a nicu a couple of years ago, spent millions i am sure. the hospital swears that it is staying open and they will transfer sick babies in. we were level 3. when asked about separating moms, they said that they would tranfer moms also!?! can you imagine being pp mom sharing a room with bariatric patient?
    i am really thinking about icu or er. any of you with experience there? do you think it would be a difficult transition?
  7. by   Ethel
    Well that refers then to at least 1/4 adult patients in our hospital and there is no special unit for them. They are nursed in our normal med\surg wards.
    Quote from SmilingBluEyes
    "Bariatric" refers to very heavy or Obese patients.
  8. by   SmilingBluEyes
    Well in this context, the "bariatric surgery" patients were what we were discussing.

    That this hospital seems to think taking care of bariatric bypass surgical patients would be easy is ridiculous. It's hard work, and they are rife with potential complications.

    I know there are a lot of obese patients; I am getting to the point where I am surprised when I have a patient under 200lb anymore (and these are young ladies mostly). Folks (including me, I need to watch my own weight) are getting bigger and our backs are being stressed more each decade.
  9. by   BittyBabyGrower
    Ah.....World Class Care at it's best. Heck, across town we knew you were closing before you did. No one wants to come way downtown to have babies and their NICU is most likely going to go down the tubes too....rumor has it that they want to extend the peds cardiac to that unit. That unit won't last...heck they don't even have their own transport team, they rely on outsider to do that from 2 other hospitals.

    Run, run! I'll stay at my large how people should be treated place LOL Come work for us, we have a great OB dept!
  10. by   BittyBabyGrower
    Ah.....World Class Care at it's best. Heck, across town we knew you were closing before you did. I am sure your management did also because the NICU girls knew. No one wants to come way downtown to have babies and their NICU is most likely going to go down the tubes too....rumor has it that they want to extend the peds cardiac to that unit. That unit won't last...heck they don't even have their own transport team, they rely on outsider to do that from 2 other hospitals.

    Run, run! I'll stay at my large how people should be treated place LOL Come work for us, we have a great OB dept!
  11. by   countryhick
    Quote from SmilingBluEyes
    Bariatric patients do indeed present unique challenges. And like Steph and others said before me, ER and ICU are not the same either. If you are willing to crosstrain, more power to you. I still say working there would not be an option for me if I had a choice. The way this was handled was very wrong. I would not trust management or administration in the least after this.
    i am an RN who actually had bariatric surgery in 2001. i know everyone is different, but i would think it would be an exciting place to work. it is a new beginning for these patients. we dont have a bariatric surgeon in our area, otherwise i would be intested in this type of nursing. many do require larger beds, wheelchairs, etc. i have lost over 150 lbs and am like a new person. enhanced self esteem. i wonder if the 24 hour stay may be referring to laparascopic or banding procedures. those may very well be short stays. well, just wanted to put my two cents in. thanks for listening. deb
  12. by   PinkDiamond6
    Quote from jrring1019
    My birthing unit is suddenly closing. There are 75 nurses on my unit and most of us found out by reading the paper :angryfire . Actually my sister called me from work (she works at same hospital, different unit) and told me. No advance notice, not one member of management called anyone to tell them. There were several meetings the next 2 days to discuss our options... there was very little info and a whole lot of fluff. "we are so sorry how everyone found out>>>> blah, blah , blah." The hospital is going to open a bariatric surgical service on our unit and we were told we would be "shining stars" if we stayed on and worked there :angryfire !! I am on the fence as to what to do. There are plenty of other floors to work on, maybe ICU or ER? All of the regional affiliated hospitals have a few OB jobs, and with seniority I might get one. In the meeting they talked and talked about incentives and severance packages. OK, what are the incentives? "we don't have any numbers." Followed by "come next week and tell us what you want to do" Well, how can we know without all of the info. Also to go to a regional hospital ( and stick with OB) we take a pay cut. Funny thing, they just opened a NICU a couple of years ago, spent millions I am sure. The hospital swears that it is staying open and they will transfer sick babies in. We were level 3. When asked about separating moms, they said that they would tranfer moms also!?! Can you imagine being PP mom sharing a room with bariatric patient?
    I am really thinking about ICU or ER. Any of you with experience there? Do you think it would be a difficult transition?
    I work in OB and I feel like I work in the ER!! You never know what is coming through the door. So, if you are a good OB nurse, you'll fit right in in the ER! Thats the bright side
  13. by   scherzo
    You and your RN buddies need a good lawyer.

    Find an employment attorney that will take this case on contingency. Get with the others in your situation and explore your options together. Are you in a collective bargaining or union state?

    You might not get your jobs back, but you will see your "severance packages" improve greatly as they make some forced out-of-court agreements.

    Best, but not necessary: Find an RN attorney that can represent you!

    If s/he is not a nurse, go for the bull dog that wins. You'll scare the crap out of them. I can bet that the hospital you work in is a for-profit and that the executives got a nice raise....

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