# Math Calculations for last semester of Nursing Program - page 2

Hello to all. My instructor sent out 2 pgs of practice problems and I am having a hard time figuring out the flow rates. I feel as if key items are missing (i.e. gtt/min or ml/hr and time to be infused) If someone could help... Read More

- 1Jan 10, '12 by LadyinScrubsQuote from momtojoshquestion......
**do nurses have to figure this out for real?....**?

nurses that i talk to say it comes all set...the dosage....all you have to do is plug in the numbers in the machine?..is this true

i am so very afraid of this math....i passed it in LPN school.....i dont even come close to doing this....or knowing how...and i am trying to get into a RN program.....maybe i should rethink? as this scares the poop out of me......i am haivng some sort of panic attack now just thinking about it.....

please let me know...**MomtoJosh - I had the same attitude as you until I got a rude awakening--we ran out of pumps. I had to do the IV calculation the old fashioned way and apply it to a drip. That was a teaching moment.**

Don't count on technology doing your job. What happens if there is a problem. What did those nurses who stayed on the job during Katrina do? They had no power, but they had patients, and the patients needed meds. You need to learn the basics. You never know when you will need them.

As far as the math that we do, it is simple math. I would say what we are doing is probably elementary or middle school math--ratios/porportions; adding, subtracting, and multiplying; and solving for a missing number. Math is a tool just like every thing else we learn in nursing school.

If math frightens you, it is because you do not understand math's rules and have not done enough problems. There are only so many ways questions can be asked. Once you undersand this and understand how to solve these questions, you won't be afraid. I was in your shoes and was an adult before I took my first algebra class. Now I love the challenge math presents.Last edit by LadyinScrubs on Jan 10, '12GrnTea likes this. - 1Jan 10, '12 by
*GrnTea*, BSN, MSN, RNthis isn't math, it's basic algebra, multiplication, and division. you learned how to solve for*x*in sophomore (high school) algebra. this is why high school math is a prerequisite to nursing school....and it's also illustrative of why you should remember stuff you learned in your first-year pharmacy calculations class. because, well,*you need it to be a nurse*.KelRN215 likes this. - 0Jan 11, '12 by LadyinScrubsGreenTea, solme time ago, the kiddles started to learn "new math". They were being introduced to algebra, although it called "new math" in elementary school. Those of us who are "seasoned" had to be introduced to the concepts of algebra in jr. high school (now known as middle school). By the time the kids of today are in middle school, they are doing simple algebra. This is why so many parents started having difficulty when "new math" was introduced many years ago...and I was one of those parents.
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*GrnTea*, BSN, MSN, RNand so the reason a college nursing student can't do it is...? - 2Jan 11, '12 by LadyinScrubsQuote from grnteanone whatsoever. i was just noting that schools are teaching algebra in grade school but are calling it "new math".and so the reason a college nursing student can't do it is...?

some people (nurses included) have math anxiety created by past experiences or a poor teacher. many nursing students fear med math. when they actually understand that the math involved is basic math combined with a little algebra to solve for a missing number, sometimes that information reduces their fear. for others, they need a little hand holding to understand the basic concepts. sadly, america stresses english is fundamental, but they have neglected to stress that math is fundamental, too. - 0Jan 14, '12 by NCRNMDMI think that starting algebra so early is why new nursing students have such a hard time with nursing math. I did algebra one when I was in eighth grade, I did geometry and algebra two in ninth grade, I did pre-calculus and discrete math (intro to statistics) in tenth grade, and I did calculus and physics in eleventh grade. My senior year I did not take a math, as I was tired of it, and had fulfilled the math requirements. I was okay at math, but I wasn't phenomenal. Math was my least favorite subject even though I made mostly As (with a few Bs), and because of this, I wasn't interested in the subject. I loved science, and I took as many science classes as possible. I also loved literature, and I took as many advanced lit classes as I could while in high school. Now that I'm in nursing school, I remember enough math to do the nursing math simply because I graduated high school as an early graduate in 2010. If, however, I had graduated in, say, 2006, I don't know that I would remember enough to do well in nursing math. Also, if I hadn't known what I wanted to do while in high school, and if I had been the type to not care, I probably wouldn't have tried to remember what I learned during high school math. If that had been the case, I would've been in big trouble during nursing math. I think a lot of the younger nursing students hated math in high school, distanced themselves from the subject, and did only the minimum required to pass. Math was hard for them, and, rather than pushing themselves to succeed, they decided to avoid the subject and only learn enough to make a C. Now that these students are in nursing school, they are overwhelmed by the math, and they don't remember anything from high school. They didn't learn enough to set a firm foundation, and they don't remember enough about algebra to get by and pass the classes. I'm not saying that beginning advanced maths early is a bad thing, I just think it has the possibility to be detrimental for some students.